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Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.

The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.

Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices. Producing a product they killed support for within just a couple years without reimbursing customers and producing huge amounts of e-waste. Jacking their subscription prices twice in one year. Apparently, they also donated to Trump despite not being an American company?? That's to say nothing of their shitty recommendation algorithm, which just plays your most played tracks over and over. Good riddance.

For those interested, I use Tidal now. I'm satisfied with, their recommendation algo is fine and the higher quality streaming is really nice but nothing I've used has ever been as good as Google Play Music, I found so much good music though that service and could upload whatever I was missing. Once Tidal inevitably pisses me off, I'm going to move on to self hosting.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Spotify CEO also donated millions to trump campaign.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Funny enough, for local downloads of video game OSTs (which I like way too much), I've been recently turning to Steam of all things. Often cheaper than Bandcamp and DRM-free!

[–] vorb0te 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Helsing supplies Ukraine which is defending itself in accord with international law and the UN Charter. An attacked nation defending itself against Russian aggression. Nothing wrong with that. Basically the opposite of Russian Z-fascism.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems they also didn't mention that it's a European defense company, not a US defense company.

Europe is investing a lot into defense now and it's actually a good thing that they're moving away from dependence on the US defense industrial complex.

Spotify sucks tho. But that's a separate thing.

Clickbait article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I empathize with the sentiment and agree with the argument that Europe should invest in its own defense infrastructure, particularly if Putin is gearing up to make a move.

That being said, Im increasingly wary of Europe's willingness to appease Trump, and find it probable that, if right-wing parties continue making political gains, this same infrastructure will be turned against marginalized communities in these same countries; in a similar vein to the U.S regime's attacks against immigrants and dissenters.

Again, I'm not opposed to re-armament, but I hope EU citizens exercise more vigilance and skepticism in this era of resurging nationalism and protectionism.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

“Said one user on X.”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

damn people are just learning that spotify is a shitty pro fascist/pro white supremacist company?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who's calling for that boycott? Putin?

Respect for the true pacifists out there, but investing in EU-based defense industry is hardly questionable by ordinary standards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Europe used the specter of Russia to justify it's dive into militant fascism the last time too.

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[–] vorb0te 3 points 6 days ago

Probably. Rashism is real.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Been thinking of booting them for a whilst. Just cancelled. Better late than never.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah - been talking about doing so for quite a long time, and then signing up to a Qobuz family plan, downloading all their apps, and cancelling everything Spotify has taken all of five minutes. Hardly even interrupted the album we were listening to via Chromecast. There's a lesson to be learned somewhere.

Qobuz' recommendations and albums-of-the-week actually look good, too. Like an actual music enthusiast has picked things out, rather than Spotify's slop.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Same story here. I cancelled Spotify after the whole Trump thing and switched to Qobuz; the whole thing was pretty seamless. I've got to say, the increased quality is actually noticeable and, as you said, the curated selections actually seem to be, well, curated. Also, if you've got a load of playlists on Spotify you want to keep, Qobuz actually provides subscribers with free access to a migartion service that did a superb job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I switched to Tidal and love it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's up with the cool startup names recently? First Palantir the fortune teller ball, now Helsing the vampire hunter? Fuck yeah, who doesn't invest in these? /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

thiel has an obsession with lotr, so he named all his evil companies after various lotr themes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I thought we were already boycotting this shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Out of every company I would have never expected Spotify to be one of the ones to want that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There are lots of reasons to boycott Spotify and call out Ek for being a fascism enabler but this is not one. Helsing is a promising project that could give Europe the edge in the face of Russian imperialist aggression. If anything, we need more companies shaking up the crusty MIC. They also provide important military aid to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Germans can surely be trusted with AI murder tech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Do you want Germany to take part in the NATO defense quotas or not?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Jokes on them, I moved to CD and love it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Got 80GB of music on my phone, tried Spotify once, it was all live versions....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I can't speak for how viable it is for success or whether it's just a grift (as I haven't had the time to really research into it) but feels like as good a time as any to mention that, out in Australia, The Pack Music Cooperative is fundraising for a cooperative music streaming service: https://www.thepackaustralia.com.au/

They haven't raised a lot towards their goal, yet, and could probably use an the help they can get. As a cooperative, they'll side step a lot of the probably problems a corporation like Spotify or Tidal will have and they already are dedicated to prioritizing artists and their rights.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Must be so nice to be so privileged as to be spoiled for choice on which fascist to support.

Spotify is the only streaming service available worldwide other than YouTube Music and Apple.

So for a lot of people it is either piracy or supporting a US tech megacorporation. Tidal, Qobuz, deezer. Cool, nice that they exist options. But most people in the planet would have to also pay a VPN and hope to not get their account banned if they want to use some of those alternatives.

It's funny really, to see how the “fascist option” for some is actually the most ethical for others.

There's always piracy of course, I suppose that is the only morally correct option always.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yarr

Is there a p2p music streaming platform yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

It requires a bit more effort but Soulseek has been around for years. I build my own music library from P2P or buying on Bandcamp. It all goes on my NAS and I stream it via Plexamp. I have my own library, my fiance's, a few friend's on there. I'm pushing 10k albums at this point.

I know I used to have an adblocked version of Spotify on my phone for convenience sake but I think they finally caught on and killed that. The AUR version still works for me however. I haven't had a Spotify subscription since probably like 2018.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Well tough guy, how else is Raytheon supposed to perfect its AIM-9X Romper Room baby-seeking missile's accuracy?

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