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I made two posts on !anime@lemmy.ml, neither are visible on both instances lemmy.ml are recommending.

beehaw.org has already become a much bigger instance and they ban lemmygrad, we're already invisible to half the people using lemmy.

It will keep getting worse, at some point you'll need to maintain two separate instance accounts and you'll consider dropping one of them.

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[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don't expect the radlibs that are joining beehaw.org to stay much longer after the Reddit blackout ends, the mentality they have of trying to bully out X political faction they don't like on lemmy.ml isn't healthy to building and maintaining any community. This time it's "tankies", next month it might be liberals who only buy 99% of the CIA narrative on [insert issue of the month here] instead of 100%.

Look at it positively comrades, growing our own community here only has benefits and hexbear.net might federate with us soon!

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hope the libs don't leave before Hexbear federates. I need to see the dunking.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I heard Hexbear is only going to federate with Lemmygrad. I'm a noob when it comes to this stuff - do you know if that means individual Hexbear users will still be able to post on other instances, and it just won't automatically show up on the all page for Hexbear users?

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If two instances aren't federated, users of each can't interact with eachother. As to Hexbear's federation plans, from a bit of lurking it seems which instances they will federate with - if they do so at all - is up in the air.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If two instances aren’t federated, users of each can’t interact with eachother.

Noooo!!!!

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I'm assumimg here that one instance is blocking the other. If neither instances are blocking eachother but they're not federated yet either, users can federate by subscribing to community on the other instance.

[–] jackissocool@urbanists.social 8 points 2 years ago

@iridaniotter Hopefully we (Hexbear) also federate with lemmy.ml. The decision isn't made yet.

[–] invalidusernamelol@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

20,000 of us incoming (more like 1000 very active and another 1000 light users/lurkers)

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look on the bright side: for most of the history of the Internet socialist states had to block out the flood of lib content to keep it from poisoning public discourse.

Now the tide is turning, and liberals are blocking communists out. On the English-speaking internet we're still a minority, but they're scared that if they let us freely compete in their marketplace of ideas, we'd be punching well above our size. Truth is a powerful ally, and their suppression of it is failing.

[–] nephs@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I needed to read this, thank you.

Brazilian communists online repeat a mantra along the lines "it looks like it's growing", to reference the libs response and fear against Marxist solid ideas.

It looks like it's growing, comrade.

[–] Raphael@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'm a brazilian communist and I've never heard that

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[–] cyber_kalashnikov@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Parece que cresce!

[–] aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If "lemmy is developed by socialists/communists/leftists" is enough for folks to steer clear of it (or move over to kbin, as I've seen at least one radlib insist that folks do rather than lemmy), then... "task failed successfully" in my eyes. No real loss.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'd rather the community grows slower, but attracts sane people than having rapid growth of liberals with addled brains.

[–] invalidusernamelol@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Rust community pitching going to Kbin cracked me up.

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[–] kristina@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so many wild people complaining about 'CCP shills'. yep im on the payroll totally 💀

[–] holygon@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Damn imagine. They really should be paying us tbh, we do some good work lmao. But yeah, to be serious, it always seems wild that China would actively be paying people to do this shit, like have they considered that we actually are just ideologically kind of aligned with the CPC? Much more easy conclusion to come to imo, Occam's Razor and all that.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When one's own income depends on closing one's eyes to capitalist brutality, it becomes easier to assume that one's ideological enemies are doing the same thing: ignoring atrocities for a pay cheque.

[–] misterslime12@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

So as always it is projection. Is there anything that isn't with libs?

[–] holygon@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Wow, that was actually kind of profound to me. Thanks for that insight comrade.

[–] jackissocool@urbanists.social 12 points 2 years ago

@Raphael I don't think Lemmygrad (or Hexbear, which I mostly post on) need to try and hoover up a bunch of new users from this, or worry about getting shut out. The community was getting on fine before. This will contribute some growth, which is nice, but there's no *need* to grow aggressively. Use lemmy.ml to do propaganda/agitation, because you know they'll never defederate. It'll be a useful shared forum while this remains its own independent space.

[–] PunsNRoses@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is exactly why I have an account on lemmy.ml. Lemmygrad is my safe space to come back to when I am sick of seeing braindead lib takes.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It didn't used to be so liberal though right? It seems to me with the flood of people from reddit it flipped overnight into almost the exact same liberal groupthink as reddit had.

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

why didn't lemmy staff try to control the liberalification of lemmy? to get more people to use lemmy?

[–] TheConquestOfBed@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My conjecture based on disagreements I've had with them, their goal is to draw in libs so that the marxists actually have people to educate. Without them it kinda became an echo chamber.

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

lmao how are marxists going to educate them if they're people are gonna block marxist instances and ban (or outright block) marxist users for being "tankies"?

most already go "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" if you as much as try to debunk them on lies about the russo-ukrainian war, about china, about dprk anyway; and find marxist solutions to be "too radical".

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

The ones who block or ban us probably aren't reachable. We can concentrate on constructive discussions with the ones who are interested in evidence.

[–] Raphael@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

We have some REAL putin puppets in here, especially on GenZDong.

I mean, actual putin puppets, people who would defend him no matter what he did.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I figure there's only so much that can be done when you have a massive flood of users joining at the same time. Between dev work and administrating lemmy.ml, dessalines and nutomic must be swamped.

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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's been my approach as well. I also find it's nice be able to post to lemmy.ml from Lemmygrad and not have all the libs from paces like beehaw descend to downvote. So it's sort of a feature when you think about it. :)

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I also find it’s nice be able to post to lemmy.ml from Lemmygrad and not have all the libs from paces like beehaw descend to downvote

We can more effectively spread agitprop to users from other instances without having them brigade/downvote bomb our comments, very well noted!

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago

👍

[–] misterslime12@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Wait this is actually hilarious. If Lemmy gets really big and all the liberal instances de-federate from us we can convert more people to marxism and they'll have no clue what's happening. They're basically doing the "if I can't see you, you can't see me" thing that kids do.

Holy hell I hope Hexbear federates with Lemmy.

[–] communix@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Lol haven’t thought of it that way

[–] kilmister@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wait a second, beehaw is blocking instances because of politics? I don't like how this sounds.

[–] Raphael@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They call it "trolling" or "human rights abuse denial" if you disagree with the american narrative. You're not expressing an opinion, you're outright lying, because the USA media said so.

[–] TheGreatSpoon@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Liberal logic. Distinguishing their ideology based on fair democracy and the "fight for your right to express yourself freely"...

...except when your expression challenges the status quo power structure or what constitutes fair democracy. You know like... every 'totalitarian' ideology?

[–] holygon@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But Radio Free Europe, and Radio Free Asia are the epitome of journalistic integrity! So good that almost all of US media parrots what they say! Are you telling me that US media would use bad sources for their news stories? That's crazy talk! (/s just in case)

[–] Raphael@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a free software enthusiast, I appreciate anything with "Free" in the title, unless it contains "trial" or any word related to journalism or politics.

The other day Mexico moved to privatize some oil companies, american press immediately pushed some articles saying "Liberal democracy is under attack in Mexico", the title was "The fascist next door".

I'm not even kidding, too lazy to look it up though.

[–] coderade@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Don’t you know true freedom is the freedom to poison the atmosphere with free CO2? And put free microplastics into every environment on earth? If I’m not free to pollute anything and everything I might as well be in Nazi Germany

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[–] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago

at some point you’ll need to maintain two separate instance accounts and you’ll consider dropping one of them.

Not if you have no plans to ever visiting anything outside lemmygrad.

[–] CjkOvPDwQw@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago

To be honest, I can understand, Lemmy being pro-communist. Shouldn't promote to new users, instances that don't federate with us, on the other hand let the liberals go there and leave us alone ...

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

is lemmy.ml down

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

The servers of lemmy.ml (along with a few of the other large instances) are taking a beating from the massive influx of redditors.

[–] aianarchist@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I didn’t make a lemmy.ml account because the devs asked us not to. Spread the load spread the love

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