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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (21 children)

Could have said it a week ago, assholes.

How many Palestinian children died while you held your breath?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago

Could have said it ~~a week ago~~ decades ago, assholes.

Ftfy

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (14 children)

West: "A little bit of genocide is fine but too much and you might make the rest of us look bad"

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In any given exchange of violence for these actors, it is a pretty reliable bet to say that there will be about a 10:1 ratio of Palestinians versus Israelis killed. I expect that we will see between 10k and 20k Palestinians killed, and probably somewhere less than 2k total Israelis killed. I think there will be fewer people killed by bombs and bullets than by the blockade. I suspect 90% of the casualties will be civilians. I think that all of the people who die in fear and pain while hiding in their homes as well as those who die on the barricades will be forgotten in a year or so.

I also suspect that the remaining checks on Bibi’s already significant power will end, and that Hamas will effectively cease to exist as a political power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Historically since 2008 to just before the conflict was 21:1, it'll be more 100:1 by the end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve been out of that business for a while and was going off of memory, so I’ll go with your numbers.

I do think the world will pull the plug on this particular situation before there are 100k Palestinians dead unless Iran or Syria gets involved. I think the problem is going to be that the rate of death is going to go vertical, and it won’t be possible to stop before it hits 10k, which could happen in a month or less depending on what they do with electricity and fuel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's what the UN states showed last I checked.

I remain hopeful I just think it's very unlikely anyone can or will step in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I think that other states will step in, and I think Israel will step back and say “What the fuck did we do?”

But history doesn’t make me think that’s going to happen nearly soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The thing is America already tried bombing an idea out of existence twice in Vietnam and Afghanistan and it failed twice. I just don’t see how brutal conflict does anything more then inspire the next generation of extremist. We need to break the cycle of violence.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Escalation? Didn't they already bomb the shit out of that country's innocent civilian population as literally nothing but cold blooded revenge and hatred? (And this is just talking about this month, not even talking about the past...).

Man, fuck those guys. Religion and politics of the region aside, I don't know how any people or nation can support governments who take these official actions of mass murder and genocide right before our very eyes.

They might as well be Russia for all the evil they're doing, except they're not even pretending they're doing it to help the Palestinians. They're just gleefully bombing and starving women, boys, children, babies, en masse.

And no, just because they were also attacked horribly doesn't give them the right to murder civilians like savages.

They're supposedly a functional developed nation, they should understand basic things like rules of engagement, proportional and measured response, and, you know... not officially and happily committing unforgivable war crimes :-/

Man, fuck those guys.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I’m sure Israel will pay as much attention to that as we paid to the rest of the world when they were all like “no dude there’s no nukes in Iraq what the fuck are you talking about”

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We fully support you! But hold back guys.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Here's more ammunition for bombing everyone, but please don't bomb the wrong target :(

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That'll work.

Egg them on and support them for 75 years and then tell them to chill out right before they wrap everything up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Wrap everything up? This is a forever war until there’s a 2 state solution

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel does not give a single shit about warnings from Europe as they were smart enough to not make their existence dependent on us.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why would they? Any criticism of anything they do can be called antisemitism and made illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

As a Jew, I'm glad that world leaders saying something and standing up for the protection of innocents.

On an unrelated note - why do we care what Yanis tweets about this? So weird to have that in this article.

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