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I have a man cold and taking my usual bowl of chicken soup washed down with a Lemsip Max but now I'm thinking... if the main ingrediant of a Lemsip is paracetamol, why don't I just have a paracetamol? It'd cost alot less.

Whats the point of a Lemsip other than the paracetamol?

Thank you.

Now that you've read this, you now have a cold sorry thats just how this one works.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

For those in North America

paracetamol = acetaminophen (Tylenol)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What exactly is a "man cold?"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Cold that smells like Cool Sport Rush Wolf Power Machinery.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Somewhere south of "man flu" but north of "the sniffles"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Yes, as others have said, it's paracetamol with some other stuff.

Something I've not seen mentioned yet however is to please be mindful that these do contain it and try to not take additional paracetamol (say, in tablet form) without watching your dose. Paracetamol overdose leads to some very nasty effects. Be careful not to exceed the daily dose of paracetamol, as stated in the product insert.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In my country Lemsip Max Cold and Flu Capsules contain a few other ingredients, I'm not sure if they are the same with yours. They say they contain a combination of paracetamol, phenylephrine hydrochloride, and caffeine. I think that the combo helps with congestion as well, and obviously if it has caffeine, so it'll give you a buzz (never in a great way in my opinion) - Basic Paracetamol works for the pain and fever part. It is commonly used to alleviate symptoms such as headache, muscle aches, sore throat, and fever.

Hope you get better soon!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They say they contain a combination of paracetamol, phenylephrine hydrochloride, and caffeine.

Incidentally, the US FDA has just completed updated studies on phenylephrine, more rigorous than when it was first introduced, and determined that when taken orally it is fully metabolized before it makes it to the sinuses and is completely ineffective. It's going to disappear from shelves soon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Which is something anyone who needed psuedoephedrine but got phenylephrine could have told them decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Good to know and yes I've been seeing reports on this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

~~But they also found that phenylephrine works amazingly well when used as a nasal spray, which they didn't quite know before. ~~

Incorrect, see comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/4577725

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that the recent review looked only at oral usage and made no determination on its efficacy as a nasal spray.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I recall reading it somewhere when the news was first coming out that it was useless as an oral medicine- lemme see if I can find it again.

Edit: I musta misread whatever news article it was - I just skimmed the actual release from the FDA and don't really mention the nose spray route at all. https://www.fda.gov/media/171972/download

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks for checking!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

It also has a phenylephrine which clears blocked nose and stuff.

If you don't have a sufficiently stuffed nose, paracetamol is cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Phenylephrine has been proven to not work when ingested orally (nasal spray delivery was not part of the study).

So Paracetamol is not only cheaper, it's the exact same therapeutic effect.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Thanks for catching that. I am not familiar with this product, so just went with the described contents. Frustrating that it is legal to sell.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Except that phenylephrine has been shown by multiple studies not to have any effect. It's only there as a replacement for pseudoephedrine, which does work, but can be used to make meth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Pretty much, it's paracetamol, caffeine and a decongestant. All things that are normally cheaper as tablets.

See: https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5620/smpc

I've always hated the taste of Lemsip because of the paracetamol, don't understand how people can stand it.

I just take some tablets and have a mug of hot lemon/honey, the hot drink helps with congestion and the honey soothes a sore throat. Lemsip just mashes it all up into one powder.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I already have one so it's fine. I believe it also contains a load of caffeine so you can be fully awake to appreciate your suffering. Honestly, Lemsip is shit. Just take a couple of paracetamol and drink some hot water, lemon juice and honey (with added whisky preferably).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's just nice. The hot lemon helps more than the paracetemol for me so sometimes I just make squash with hot water and it's not too different.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume from context that the “squash” you are referring to is not a gourd. Is it a beverage? Does it contain or is it served in a gourd?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Squash" is another word for cordial or diluting juice - that is, a concentrated fruit juice that you dilute with water to drink

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

TIL thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Huh. That sounds like a good time and fridge space saver. Make your own concentrate. I have made my own ginger syrup concentrate before, tastes good but not exactly a fruit. Have you got a recipe you actually like drinking when you're not sick?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm afraid I've never made any myself. There's a wide variety of them available pretty cheap in most shops here, and also I am fortunate enough to live somewhere where the tap water is really good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Skua has answered most of your issues but I thought I'd add a link.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/258935230

This is the best lemon squash. It doesn't need to be refrigerated, it can be kept in the cupboard for a year or two, I'm sad that it's not common everywhere.

[–] Backtrack3241 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How exactly does the hot lemon help you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Vitamin C is good for you. It's been found to reduce the time you're sick by 10%. It's better to consume it regularly before getting sick though, as it significantly reduces the risk of developing a cold.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Clears your congestion which is what's causing the headache and stuffiness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about the fever?

I'm no doctor but it just sounds pretty unlikely that congestion is what is causing the headache. Sounds more likely that a virus is causing both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The virus is causing both in a roundabout way, but congestion does cause the headache in most colds and flu (and also covid, which is where I learnt this, working with covid patients). It's because your sinuses are blocked, and they cause pain behind the eyes, across the forehead, and more generally the front of your brain as it spreads.

Most people will take a painkiller for the headache, but usually a decongestant is actually more effective and longer lasting.