The biggest thing I'll miss isn't actually being on reddit but the fact that basically any time you needed to look up somthing you could just google it and add site:reddit.com and find some good threads about it.. it's been a valuable knowledge base.
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I also do this, but even before the recent turmoil I started losing confidence and trust. Brands know about this trick and they know how much consumers trust honest reviews by real people.
Generative AI like ChatGPT makes it easier than ever to flood subs with search-engine friendly posts and comments how awesome product X is...
Agreed, although I do love that their own search engine was complete dogshit. That said, many of the posts I found really useful were at least five years old, sometimes as old as 12. In some ways it may be good for the knowledge base to update a bit. Actually, are Lemmy posts searchable the same way as Reddit?
Iโm sad too. I grew up in the early 1970s loving newspapers and oddly loving the classified ad sections (that sounds strange, but reading scattered somewhat classified content still is pleasing to me. That is how my carefully curated Reddit home feed felt.) As newspapers died, I realized that my small metro area had no good written way to interact or hear about local issues. Our local subreddit became my best source.
And I loved reading subs such as /nursing and /medicine and /talesfromyourserver not because I work in those areas, but because they are IRL communities that I count on for my quality of life and hearing their stories helped me empathize with them and (I think) made me a better human.
If I woke up in the middle of the night, I could read something to get my mind off of whatever was running through my head.
Other than paying for my Apollo subscription, making about 25 comments a year, and using the upvote function liberally, I didnโt interact much. My almost 10 year old account is very shy. I was always wary of being attacked or ignored. Oddly, IRL, Iโm very apt to dive into any conversation.
Iโm tentatively trying to be more interactive here. Smaller groups feel safer.
As someone who worked at a major U.S. newspaper in the late 90s, I think the world needs more people who think the way you have just expressed... valuing local information, empathizing with people outside your circle, and considering how your words will be received. I hope you find Lemmy to be a place where you feel comfortable contributing.
This reminds me so much of the mass digg exodus of 2010. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes.
Tricky thing is going to be the onboarding process for laypeople. Problem with the fediverse is helping people wrap their heads around servers. People think the server is the "community." And it kind of is, and it kind of isn't. Servers are a community of people, but severs also host capital C "Communities" within them.
This is probably the biggest thing holding back the adoption of the fediverse. This user experience problem hasn't been cracked. Onboarding isn't intuitive.
I definitely agree with this. I'm a very tech-savvy person and while I think I understand how it all works, I am confident there are plenty of people that will look at Lemmy and the fediverse and go "uhhhh...nope I guess?"
That's unfortunate.
I guess the concept of fediverse is what will end up confusing people more than ever. There's a very good quick starter guide published on Lemmy that I found to be incredibly helpful. Including the clarification that content is accessible across servers but users cannot log in to other servers.
I also think it will be crucial how the app ecosystem for Lemmy shapes up. Most people will just be using an app to access their communities and won't care about the underlying fediverse structure.
Here's hoping for all the apps, which made Reddit what it is/was, to come to roost quickly for Lemmy!
I completely agree. It was super confusing figuring out how to access communities from other servers, and I consider myself a very tech-literate person. The Digg -> reddit transition didn't require understanding a whole new paradigm when signing up.
My understanding is (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me) instances/servers are like little towns with their own communities. But you're not limited to just your town and your communities. You're free to visit any town and join any of their communities.
I'm sure it's much more convoluted than that, this was just my simple understanding of it.
I also feel sad about leaving Reddit. It's been a constant in my routine for almost a decade. If I needed anything - opinions, suggestions, advice - about literally anything I'd immediately head to Reddit. It's bittersweet having to leave, but I know deep in my heart there was no other way especially with how it was going and how it was treating its users. But honestly seeing a new, fresh feed actually felt... nice. I don't see much negativity. I actually see people replying to each other mostly decently. There's not a lot of trolling or passive aggressiveness. I feel hopeful that this will be the start of seeing healthier communities and more positive interactions. In any case, if you're here anyway, you're a part of the group of people who don't think what's happening on the other side is acceptable, so it's already a pretty great filter if you think about it.
I prefer non-corporate alternatives, like lemmy or mastodon. However, if it's going to last, users are going to have to contribute what they can to keeping the lights on, otherwise, if lemmy grows, they'll have to resort to things like ads to cover their costs and it will become reddit all over again.
Well, we are on the ground floor here. Let's find something that keeps the lights on and gives everyone the incentives they need to make a great community!
Perhaps a good start would be a page that gives statistics about the time and money required to run an instance. I really appreciate those who have dedicated their time money and reputation to start things up. Lets find a way to build a better social media experience together.
I think many of us would be OK with a number of different models, donations, non-intrusive ads, reasonable subscription fees, etc. Perhaps there could even be incentives for people who put time into building communities by moderating or other tasks. The important thing in my opinion is that everyone feels they contributed to the structure in a way that they want to keep participating.
Edit: I found a budget page from the donation link on the side bar of the main page of lemmy.world.
You know it's funny, I thought I would be sad to see Reddit go but I've been lurking here on Lemmy for a day or two and I've realised that Reddit actually was a pretty toxic environment a lot of the time.
I will miss some of the long running in-jokes (broken arms, coconuts etc.) but overall maybe moving on from Reddit is a good thing.
I hope Reddit doesn't die entirely though. It does have some uses, particularly if you need help on a. particular topic. The specialist subreddits have a large amount of knowledge available through their subscribers and I've often turned to them for help on a tech issue when I have something I can't answer with a quick Google search (for example, a weird issue with Sonarr which wasn't covered by the *arr wiki) and it would be great if this doesn't go away.
What I am sad about is seeing the demise of some great 3PA (I was an Apollo user). The amount of work put in by the devs is huge, and this is their livelihood being destroyed. So for folks like Christian I do feel bad.
I'm interested to see how Reddit comes out of the other side of the blackout. Wait and see I guess.
I'm actually kinda glad reddit is dying, this seems like a much better place. Short term it's a pain but long term I have a good feeling about this platform
I love the thrill of discovering something new on the internet, and then sharing the content with my friends.
Reddit substituted that thrill by localizing it through all the niche subreddits, but as time went on it was obvious how dangerous that can be.
I'm personally excited to get back to exploring.
The downside is that the internet of 2023 is not the internet of 2013, and definitely not the internet of 2003 - but that doesn't have to be encumbering.
But I understand that most people don't want to work for that shit. Hopefully the added competition spurs innovation from all over.
You're using it.
Reddit has always had a massive problem with misogynists, racists, pedophiles, etc. and the staff never does anything about it until there's media attention. They monopolized the web forum medium which basically forced communities to have to exist on that extremely toxic, hate-filled website.
I'd say I'm elated to see it go, but to be honest I don't think it is going anywhere. With any luck, Lemmy will become a vibrant community while all the assholes stay on the site they deserve.
Edit: Also, Reddit is designed to be addictive and has a reputation for it's negative, doomscroll-inducing atmosphere. Then there's the whole race-to-the-top karma system that ensures that Reddit has a monoculture where all the replies are predictable and similar.
Fediverse platforms aren't built around being addictive and in general tend to be more positive and diverse, making them feel large in spite of actually being significantly smaller than mainstream platforms.
At this point I'm wondering whether people will stick to reddit even if they pull a 180 on api pricing and all. The whole smear campaign against Apollo and others just underlines they can't be trusted.
Even if they reneged on everything, I still wouldn't go back. The problem with Reddit at this point is the quality of its users. It's next to impossible to find any kind of legitimate discussion because everything is buried under reddit-comedy and virtue signaling. Most of the major subreddits have just become political tools for their mods. It scares me thinking how curated the posts are there.
I'm pretty sure most redditors won't care enough to leave. I predict the only people actually leaving will be old guard (like 35+) and FOSS nerds who pine for the good old days of the internet and/or otherwise have ideological qualms with the changes. Everyone else will just grumble and get the ad infested, inferior official app.
I'm glad to be a part of something new. Still confused a little bit that's part of the excitement lol
Fuck u/spez
It is kind of exciting to be involved in something like what must have happened when digg died and reddit started up. Are we going to get cake days here?
OP didn't realized he was using an alternative. Bye Reddit
Life on the net is the life of a nomad fleeing a string of manmade apocalypses.
Missing Reddit is better than mourning what it'll end up as when the screws start to tighten (when you have a captive audience, stage 2 is ramping up the ads).
Honestly better this way, the fediverse is much more resilient and future-proof than a site maintained by a group of people with the aim of making money and deciding the fate of their service, and I doubt that reddit becomes opensource and implements activityPub soon.
Personally I'm eagerly awaiting Reddit's demise.
I for one am glad to be here to make something new. Enjoy the ride!
Yeah it's sad to see how reddit has fallen, but oh well. You either die a hero, or you live to see yourself become the villain.
I'm feeling pretty good about Lemmy, honestly. I wasn't sure how I was going to fill my downtime, but this and mastodon may just pan out for me
Yeah, it's a bummer Reddit went the way it did. But here we are. I'll miss it to a point. Still figuring out Lemmy, we'll see how it goes. I've tried Mastodon a bit as well but it feels more like Twitter to me, which I used for maybe a week years ago. No thanks.
I feel the same way. I love how reddit had very active communities for pretty much all my interests. Lemmy is not bad but you have to make it happen and who knows if it will happen..
I feel Reddit was falling anyway. It felt like it was just more and more reposts in most subreddits to me.
The karma-farming bot reposts have been getting particularly out of hand over there for a long while.
Weeeeeeellllllll, there are a lot of former Reddit users here so you won't miss too much, I think!
Reddit's not what it once was, and won't be ever again if they continue towards IPO even if they walk back some or all of the proposed changes. I might visit occasionally to check up on things, but by-and-large I'm done with it.
Be the change you want to see. Start a community, advertise it, start bring the reddit folks over here.
I've been on Reddit for almost 15 years and it's just gotten too big and too moderated for me.
I'm sad too. What's with these tech companies making the shittiest changes lately? I thought I'd be fine deactivating my Discord after their horrendous username change since I'd still have Reddit but now Reddit is going to become lower quality. I'll be active on here and Twitter since its fandoms are similarly, like Reddit, seperated by subtwitters (communities)
For sure, but what makes Reddit special are the users, the content, and the discussions. The admins add no value.
We can recreate the communities in a distributed and federated way so that we never find ourselves in the same situation again.
I just logged out of my account and uninstalled the app (Sync) for the protest, only to realize that I needed an ELI5 30 minutes later... Hopefully my favorite/most useful subreddits manage to join Lemmy as well!
ChatGPT has replaced most eli5
Tried asking chatgpt some r/eli5 and the answers are often comparable to the top comments