If they are charged through those ports, they can not keep them. Period. They might think they can get away with it, but they can't. Law clearly states that anything battery operated must use type C for charging.
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Didn't it say "launched"? So you can continue to sell an older design. The same reason apple are selling the iPhone 14 still without issues.
That's probably the catch. This law comes into power 2024. Things that are being sold now can still be sold.
Will be funny when they don't allow them in for import anymore.
Starting 2024.
Let's see in a couple of months. I'm on Apple France and the magic mouse is for sale (85 frigging Euros, are you kidding me?). With lightning.
I’m convinced people that use Apple products don’t care that much about which connector is used, it’s mostly non Apple users that have a hard on about fighting the man. People in the ecosystem already have a lightning cable, those entering it will likely get one with their device, just like you get a USB-C with a non Apple devices. I get the need to standardize, but the amount of coverage and passion it gets seems so silly.
I like that my new phone has USB-C, but yeah, I basically have a bunch of perfectly good lightning cables, some of them more than 10 years old, that are now e-waste. We spent $100 buying new cables, because we didn't have enough to cover all the places we normally stash chargers away for convenience (cars, couch, home office, etc.)
It's definitely better in the long run, but this felt more like ripping off a bandaid. The bigger deal for me is 10gbps speeds letting me shoot pro res footage straight to an attached SSD, but this is a pretty niche use case.
We spent $100 buying new cables, because we didn't have enough to cover all the places we normally stash chargers away for convenience
Now you can join the rest of the world and pay much less for cables and chargers. The $100 was a sunk cost that Apple stole from you. It's gone. Sell the cables with your old phone.
Now you can join the rest of the world and pay much less for cables
The USB-C cables I just bought were not any cheaper than my lightning cables. In fact, I think they were actually a bit more expensive, because I only opted for cables that are certified for 100w power delivery and some of them for USB 3.1 speeds.
and chargers
This makes no sense, lightning cables always worked with ordinary usb chargers.
You can get a 6ft USB C cable for $4:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=38885
You would need 25 of them to spend more than $100. Are you just buying the USB C cable from Apple? That might be the problem.
Those are 58% off right now, their regular price is $10. The regular price for the lightning version of these Monoprice cables is also $10. Right now i can see a three pack of 6 foot lightning cables on Amazon for $8.40, or $2.80 per cable. The benefit to switching is solely because of convenience and standardization, it is not saving me any money.
I also spent a lot more on some of my USB-C cables because i wanted them to support 3.1 speeds. That costs more if you go for USB-IF certified cables, which you probably should if you’re plugging them in to anything expensive.
Ok, I'm just going to stop talking to you because you have no idea about the differences between cables. Your Amazon link is for USB A-to-Lightning cables (which charge slowly because it's USB A) and the brand name is "Tryeah".
And you are comparing them to my nylon braided Monoprice cord with a lifetime warranty? I can see why you paid too much for cables. I was just trying to help you but you've got to be right. Enjoy your "Tryeah" brand cables.
I literally bought monoprice cables (because they are actually USB-IF certified, unlike most) and here you are saying i don’t know how to buy cables.
Those 6’ cables were not on sale when i bought them, and it’s totally unfair for you to compare their sale price to the non-sale price of monoprices lightning version of the exact same cable.
The purpose of the cables on amazon was to show that the lightning connector does not have a substantial impact on price. It’s easy to find cheap lightning cables, even ones that are MFi certified.
I’ve debunked your claims one by one, and you’re trying to weasel out of them on technicalities rather than actually addressing the points you can’t defend.
You are describing me. I don’t give 2 fuck about the type c changing port, I have a ton of good lighting cable. Also plug-in a lighting cable is more satisfy than a type c, it has that click-sound when I plug in.
You’re entirely right
I have to do more work to switch from lightning to USB-C because very little to none of my devices use it. More use lightning because I’m already in the Apple ecosystem.
The people I see complaining about it are almost, but not always, android users
Honestly, why can Android user just leave iPhone alone? I get it, you don’t like Apple and iPhone is general, just go back and use your fking droid phone? It’s not like Apple hold a gun and force you to use an iPhone, you have a freedom to buy whatever tf device you want, your money your choice?
Mac(work)/Windows(play)/Android user here. I think folks get vocal about it because for a time, it actually affected everyone negatively since other companies wanted to follow apple's choice to make special cables. But it's is a predatory practice that only hurts you and creates waste for everyone. Some people go about it the wrong way, but they are trying to help you/everyone
My Mac 2019 has 4 USBC ports, I really like that I can use the same charger and cable for my Mac, Surface, Pixel, Logitech mouse and Xbox controllers - It feels like I'm finally in the future
Someone who uses Apple products chiming in, you're right on. I have a magic keyboard which I occasionally use with my iMac (although I've been using Logitech's peripherals more recently and been extremely happy) and if I put the politics of it all beside me, I don't care. I'll just grab my lightning cable to charge up my keyboard once a month.
Honestly. And the same people complaining about e-waste are the same people who want an accessory to switch cables.
Over the long term, unifying cables reduces e-waste. In the short term it does not.
That EU ruling saved the world they don’t even know. Because if left to companies, well waves broadly at Silicon Valley
Kill Lightning. Kill USBA. Kill DC plugs once and for all.
I was gobsmacked last week to see my colleague open a brand new Amazon Dot thing ($20AUD smart speaker) and see it with a barrel jack. Really?
Making record profits, gotta trim those “expensive” parts.
Literally nothing a single USBC port can’t replace. One world, one port ffs. Can we just get that done as a species at least? flips water bottle
We need cable standards to go with the ports too
Yeah that’s a shit show too
That’s so upsetting. I’d love to replace my Magic Trackpad for one without a lightning port but for some reason they don’t refresh their peripherals.
Why, though? If you already have it and it’s already hooked up to a lightning cable you already have, what would a refresh get you?
There’s a bit of comfort in only ever needing one type of cable, I guess, but I’m not sure it outweighs the hassle for me.
The battery in the Trackpad is also slowly dying and it appears to be a glue sandwich, so there’s no easy way to replace it. So whenever I gotta charge it every few weeks, I need to dig up my lightning cable just for that. I’d prefer to replace the Trackpad entirely, especially if a new generation offers more features or other hardware advantages.
Maybe I’m a caveman but I have never minded cables on stationary peripherals.
Mice and gamepads for sure are wireless. But nearly everything else is wired for me and I have no issues.
I think it depends on your setup. I prefer to have no cables on the desk. There’s already a switch and a gaming PC, so the risk of cable clutter is high. Whatever I can eliminate, I do.
You liar! Is right behind your screen and it’s already hogging a usb port! /assumption
I mean if it bothers you that much they have like $10 adapters on Amazon that are male lightning to USB-C female. and they even work with PD chargers.
Much cheaper than the $129 they’ll charge when the new one comes out
I love that this article is three sentences and says it all. The damned charging port on the mouse {SMH}, Apple...good grief.
The bigger problem with the trackpad is the low polling rate. It's fine with a 60hz display but it feels choppy at 120hz (i.e. the native refresh rate of 14" and 16" MBPs). Hopefully the inevitable USB-C version brings this up to par.
Yea, I’m very disappointed that no one has come round yet to convert my devices. Do we have a timeline when this will happen?
It’s gonna be a mix of Lightning and USB-C for a while. Don’t throw out those cables just yet!