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[–] [email protected] 93 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I for one am 100% in favor of forever adding "who halved the value of Twitter" after every mention of Elmos name lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it even worth half what it was before? It's probably better to say something less specific, like "tanked", so it stays accurate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

That figure is based off of a recent internal valuation that was made public because it kind of had to be, because Twitter now pays employees partly in equity (I'd rather take monopoly money, but I digress lol).

So basically that's the number Elon himself admits the company is worth today - some people say less, but honestly it's impossible to pin an exact number on these things unless someone is actually offering to buy it (or if it's public and you can just look at the market cap)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

They're saying it in this article because Elon is being transphobic on purpose to manufacture controversy on the same day it's announced that he's now halved the value of Twitter. He doesn't want people talking about what a financial loser he is, so he's trying to make people talk about what a transphobe he is

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A useful rebuttal in LGBTQ Nation explained why “cis is a slur” is total bullshit: People who say that cis is a slur don’t offer an alternative term to use that is non-offensive. Because they don’t offer alternative inoffensive terminology, as there is with all other slurs, it’s clear it’s not the word cis they’re objecting to, but the existence of any words to describe the fact that some people are transgender, and some people aren’t.

If you were to ask one of these morons, I bet they'd say that the alternative non-offensive term is "normal". "Normal" is a safe and reassuring blanket that tells them that they don't have to change, that they're in the right, and that all these other people are abnormal deviants.

The other portion of it is that they themselves didn't choose the name "cis" and so they feel as if they are being labeled, and labeling is what they do to others to subjugate and humiliate them as abnormal, so that's how they feel now that they are the ones being labeled.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Yep that's exactly what they do.

"I'm not 'cis' I'm normal"

or

"I'm male, you don't need any other term."

They don't like the idea of the term cisgender because it implies that there's another option, and they don't believe there is. So why define a disparity where none exists?

There's no logical argument that can alter their perception

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well... except that "cis" is actually a shortened form of the precise, latin-rooted, technical term "cisgender," which is the opposite of the precise, latin-rooted, technical term "transgender."

And it has nothing at all to do with heterosexuality, or with sexual preference in any way, shape or form.

So he's not just wrong, but wrong in pretty much every way he could possibly have been.

Which seems to be pretty much par for the course for the world's richest middle-aged teenage edgelord.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A few years ago, my mother laughed at me for being impressed she knew what "cis" meant. She said she learned it from chemistry, something about molecules being flipped, where flipping it one way is cis and the other is trans. I was so prepared to have to talk her down from thinking it was a slur that it was a relief.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yep cis-trans isomerism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I was confused when I first heard it because I had been playing CSGO a lot at the time and in the eSports scene Central Asia is usually abbreviated to CIS.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

He also isn't going to do anything about slurs on the platform, unless they can be used against him.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Really love the idea that "cis" (which means you're the same gender you were at birth) has anything to do with heterosexuality. It's truly groundbreaking. /s

There are many many many cis people that are not heterosexual.

And by the way, cis is the opposite latin prefix of trans. Trans means "other side," cis means "same side." That's literally it. It's not complicated.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You've got to remember that these are just simple twitter posts. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new social media age. You know... morons.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remembering the good ol' George Carlin bit about thinking about how dumb the average person is.. and then realizing that half the people are dumber than that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Mongo like candy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Mongo only pawn in game of life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Land Shark.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He is literally just saying "straight is a slur"

Elon doesn't have enough understanding to even be shitty coherently. Fuck him. Ignore him. He made Twitter irrelevant, and so is he.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, for fucks sakes. Can we just shut him up already?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

he's speed running his divorced disaster graham linehan arc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Any word can be used in a derogatory fashion. I'd say the non-binary community knows this better than anyone.

Like the word "Gay" has been used in a quite derogatory fashion for many years now. It's original meaning, the people it's being used to refer to and how it's being used are, objectively, three very different things.

Deeming singular words as slurs or hate-speech, in and of themselves, is by far the most idiosyncratic way to get around an actual problem. I'd say the 'Intent' behind it matters more. And the 'Why' of it all.

Regardless, I don't think dear old Elon is in a position to call-out anyone for anything at this point in time.