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I was wondering if anyone knows how to figure out which instances are blocking this one? I know beehaw is as it was quite public, but now we are blocked by 2 and I am just curious which instance is the second one. I have looked on the awesome-lemmy-instances page and also tried Federation Observer, The Federation Info and FediDB but none of them seem to have this information.

Edit: Lemmymap seems like the easiest option, as you can't specifically search for an instance. It seems like https://news.cosocial.ca/instances is the other instance that has blocked us! Thank you bdonvr for mentioning this.

Edit2: It should be noted that this is a very small instance as mentioned by PriorProject, and is nothing to be worried about.

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[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This website is specifically for that: https://fba.ryona.agency

lemm.ee is federated with everyone :D

Edit: just noticed my links only showed which instances the subject has blocked. The main page allows you to do it both ways:

Strangely, I can't see news.cosocial.ca in there. However, it does show that discuss.online and pawb.social have also defederated from sh.itjust.works.

[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you have found a tool made by Kiwi Farms - here is a Wikipedia article on the website

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't even notice the kiwi farms git link at the bottom of the site.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kierunkowy74@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I warn you, that the existence of this tool made some Mastodon instances hide their block lists (or simply display the lists on e.g. static site)

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I think it's remarkably silly to hide. like why not be open about who you block/don't block? unless you're ashamed of your actions?

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The links you posted are the inverse of what I was looking, although they do support the inverse here. Regardless that is a very nice website! I find it interesting that it shows different instances blocking sh.itjust.works than what I found on Lemmy map.

edit: I cannot write well today, I do apologize

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

No worries hah I realised and edited mine also.

Yeah, the different instances is strange. It shows nothing for news.cosocial.ca, which has me wondering if it's aware of lemm.ee - maybe it isn't, and that's why I can't see it defederated from anything. Perhaps it's just something to do with how often the feds are updated, news.cosocial.ca seems pretty small and could be new.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

https://lemmymap.feddit.de/

Though it really only works on desktop. Click the "blocked" checkbox

[–] Guncle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I personally don't care to use them myself, they generally don't ruin my reading experience unless its obvious spam. However, I have heard that they are the enemy of people who rely on screen readers. Screen readers will say something like "Tongue sticking out emoji". So depending on where they are placed in text it can probably be really difficult to read things.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did your comment end up on the wrong post? Websockets seem to be falling apart this week and leading to all kinds of weird bugs.

[–] Guncle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep totally wrong post lol. Sorry for the missing context, I was trying to reply to a thread about the use of emojis.

[–] tobor@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

Oh! That was my post. Actually I didn't know about the screen reader thing, that's actually a legit reason to use alternatives

[–] YuzuDrink@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did Beehaw defederate it? I’m out of the loop…

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here is the post on Beehaw announcing the defederation from sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world

Tldr; there is a lack of moderating tools for this platform and given the community that Beehaw wants to create they cannot federate with large open-regestration instances. A few bad actors on these two instances were causing too much moderation hassle so they decided to defederate. They also wish for more granular federation controls akin to Mastodon, to avoid the nuclear option of defederation. At the time they also only had 4 moderators for the entire instance (people can't create their own communities)

Since then they have gotten more mods, and TheDude (our instance admin) has reached out to beehaw and they are currently collaborating which will likely lead to refederation (more can be found in this post on Beehaw)

Edit: I had some issues making this reply, so if you see this pop up more than once i sincerely apologize.