This has to be the most circlejerk post of all time.
this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
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The US is literally funding genocide right now but wait, it's only wrong when it's against white people
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Extremists be like "You're either with me or against me!"
I'm an extremist when the issue is "should we do a genocide".
On the "no" side, to be clear. I will indeed not accept any answer other than that one.
Is that such a wrong position to have when the questions are as starkly "respect human rights or don't respect human rights" as most issues are in today's conversation? This isn't a discussion on the minutia of how much money should be allocated to transit subsidy, this is "should the queers be allowed to exist?" and "should women have rights?" and "do parents have the right to ruin their child's life just because they're the parent?"
If you really think there's a middle ground there, either you're a fucking idiot, or you actually don't and you're just trying to pretend you do because you know your actual answer is morally indefensible unless you ascribe to a world view that has no business being respected in a democratic rights respecting society.
Enlightening comment section. Very revealing discussions on our current political discourse.
"Data for Progress" poll even back on Oct. 21 showed a majority of Republicans wanted a ceasefire. Half of Republicans in this Reuters/Ipsos poll:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/15/poll-us-israel-support-hamas-war
It would be a mistake to characterize this as a left/right issue. That's a classic pattern for drawing up support for inhumane policies, telling "the right" that "the left" wants something and that therefore they should oppose it. This is a basic issue of lives vs. deaths, human rights vs. an oppressive fascist regime, don't allow it to be reframed in these other ways that distort it.
So I tried to find the poll instead of an article about it and I found this.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/reuters-ipsos-israel-hamas-war-2024-election
Americans are split on whether Israel’s response has been excessive (50% agree, 50% disagree), Democrats are more likely to agree (62%) than Republicans (30%)
That is to say that 70% of Republicans believe that a bombing campaign that has killed 12,000 of innocent civilians including thousands of children is not excessive. The parody isn't far from truth.
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Genocide of those who want genocide? Since we’ve agreed that some genocide is ok?
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You literally cannot do some genocide.
The holocaust was a genocide, but there are still jews left in the world. Not for the lack of trying, but Hitler was stopped, so you can definitely do a partial genocide.
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What if it’s an Undertale genocide run and you spare one of the bosses?
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That's not the center's position. That's the position of people pretending to be center.
It's more like:
Left: "Let's destroy people's livelihoods with higher taxes on small businesses and also force people to do things they don't agree with. "
Center: "Um, that's not a good idea. Let's not do either of those things."
Right: "Yeah, that's right! Let's commit genocide and make it easy for murderers to get weapons."
Center: "No, that's way worse! What the hell?"
Left: "That's it, if you don't agree with us, you're the enemy!"
Right: "Exactly!"
Center: ....
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