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[–] [email protected] 115 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So, in short:

  • Google is not killing ad blockers, but merely chopping off both legs and arms in the name of security.
  • ublock Origin is implementing a lite version for chromium browsers, supposedly being pretty decent given the circumstances.
  • Old Manifest V2 extensions will be disabled in June 2024 and Manifest V2 will be removed in June 2025.
  • Firefox is Firefox.
  • Privacy and security focused chromium based browsers will have to implement proper native ad blocking.
[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I am now using Firefox…

I mean I was using Firefox before this, but I also am now as well you know.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used to use Firefox.

I still do, but I used to too.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Cool story bro. Completely irrelevant comment for this post but cool story anyway.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People are fighting ads and switching browsers.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I went from Netscape to Mozzila and from Mozilla to Firefox and, guess what... my browser never fucked me up in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

Google was already a wholly untrustworth Ad Company With A Tech Arm back when they invented Chrome, and shit like this was already back then a question of WHEN, not IF.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox's engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple's engine), and Blink (Google's engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

I'd no idea there's a browser called Conkeror. That's prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE's Konqueror browser.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fennec is also using Gecko.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every other Google Chromium fork will need to maintain an increasingly complex set of changes to the Google repository

Yet infinitely easier than building a new browser from the bottom up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hear people say Chromium is bad for the web all the time but they all seem to think that Chromium = Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Okay, would you like to elaborate beyond what I just said?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because using Chromium and Chromium-based browsers reinforces Chrome's market share dominance which will harm comparability as more and more sites will only be tested against Chrome and in many cases refuse to serve pages to other browsers without user agent string fuckery.

It also cultivates dependence on Google for the extension ecosystem, etc

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's what happening to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, you say that, but this is what happened to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I, too, happened to me: Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was using Firefox back when it was cool. And now it'll be cool again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I used Firefox before chrome even was a thing and never moved away. Fuck chrome.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I briefly lived in the dark side of IE6 because AOL fucked over the Netscape browser so badly. But then I came back like the prodigal son when Firefox (then Firebird) came along.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I remember IE5 and NS4, as well as the Firebird/Phoenix/Firefox naming joys back in the day.

If you want to blow your brains out, try getting XHTML 1.1 working in IE6. It is indeed possible if you modify the XHTML DTD. Interestingly it'd render shit so much better since it'd use MSXML instead of Trident as the rendering engine. Sadly it would add about 400k to the page since it needed to load a custom DTD...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're an even older user than me then lol. I think it was '08 or '09 when I started using the internet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're all in this together, brother.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah! They can take Firefox out of my cold dead hands.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thanks to Lemmy, I’m browsing on Firefox on Linux Arch…

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who went on a bit of an open-source mania because of all the Linux and FOSS nerds on here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It's a great lifestyle, been a Linux main for about 15+ years, or around half my life so far. Highly recommend it to anyone who thinks it's fun to use good software.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Did you install Arch on your mac?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hm, should I try switching my old Surface Pro 3 from PopOS to Arch?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Try Hanna Montana first.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

Google's ads can lick my nads.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting that article comes to the conclusion that uBlockOrigin Lite is basically as effective as the original and works on the new Manifest v3.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I'm glad you read the article, since it seems like nobody else in the comment section has!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

When I went to read the comments of this post, and for some reason it took 10 sec for them to show up in my client, I thought of Google...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I am forever grateful for my father having Firefox installed on the xp hand-me-down that became my first computer

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