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[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 443 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Morning people, in my experience at least, firmly believe that night people are just morning people with insufficient self-discipline.

[–] miley@lemmy.world 130 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, 100%. I swear most folks I know believe being a night owl is simply a lack of self control, or they have a screw loose

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

sure it's a lack of self control, if i had better self control i could force myself to go to bed at 21:00 and lie there for 2 hours until i fall asleep out of tortured boredom, and then i could force myself out of bed at 07:00 despite my limbs feeling like lead and every movement bringing me abject misery and pain!

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wild is that you'll see them get a night job, or have to stay up late on vacation a few times and they'll be 100/10 miserable af. Never adapt to it, and still keep believing iTs aLl SeLf DiScIpLInE

[–] Spendrill@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well what it 'proves' to them is that mankind is supposed to follow the exact same routine that works for them. My Dad was forever saying "Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise." Died when he was 45.

[–] zedgeist@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To quote Yakko Warner:

Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, but socially dead

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[–] cynar@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's actually a genetic bias on it. It can be overridden, but you'll always feel a bit burnt out from it. It also changes with age (teenagers are the latest, getting earlier as you age.

[–] Soulg@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a night person who has to wake up at 6am, I can absolutely confirm. I'm always tired.

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm the same way. If I fall asleep at 10pm but wake up at 6am I'm absolutely miserable for the first hour, but if I go to sleep at 2am and wake up at 10am I'm refreshed and in a good mood most of the time. I'm 30 and it hasn't gotten any better with age yet.

Fuck mornings I hate them so much.

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[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to be a night owl, then I had a job that required me to get up at 5:30. It sucked for 2 weeks and now I'm a morning person.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had the opposite experience a few years ago, I am very much a night owl.

I did a job that required me in the office for 7am for a few months, I was noticeably less effective for the whole duration, I was just slower at everything and was basically constantly tired. Switched back to getting in for 9-10am and the difference was night and day, as basically I was back to my old levels of effectiveness after a day or two.

I just think I'm one of these people that cannot adapt, or at least if I do, it comes with a cost.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

I'm a night owl and even early morning acclimatization hasn't helped.

There were a few months that I had to do 12.5 hour shift work where I had to be at work at 5:30 AM and I was miserable the entire time. It's hard to adjust when your natural cycle is like 10 am to 2 am.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 179 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Then there's my fucking cunt of a housemate who lkves on the floor above me that's the loudest mother fucker on the face of the earth and fucking stomps around until 1am every night and opens and slams close every fucking draw and door in his room, and re arrnafes his furniture every night, then gets up at 6.30 in the morning so he can stomp around some more, hack up his lungs as loudly as humanly possible and slam every door in the fucking house before leaving for work exactly when my alarm goes off, specifically so I can't have a single good night sleep ever.

Sorry I may have some pent up anger.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry I may have some pent up anger.

Nothing a good night of sleep can't solve!

[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You must live below the people in the apartment next to me.

Why are people like this. Really. I want a serious, well thought out answer from people who act like this. I would be fucking appalled if I found out people had been losing sleep because of me. Or they weren't able to concentrate when working from home, or had to get a bluetooth converter for their tv to connect headphones because otherwise they can't even enjoy tv with all the stomping, banging, furniture moving, and door slamming. I would feel so fucking guilty and especially embarrassed for coming off as such an entitled piece of shit. I literally cannot comprehend that there are people who know they're disturbing others, in their own homes, day and night, and they either don't give a shit, or they get mad at the person they're torturing for asking them nicely to keep it down. Or both. And yes I have brought it up with my landlord countless times. They could give a fuck. The next step is to contact the city and have them come in with a decibel meter or something. In my state, landlords must ensure "peaceful enjoyment" for tenants. But I'd have to prove it's over a certain level, then deal with filing a complaint and/or civil court or whatever, so nothing ever changes.

This is one situation where I think an eye for an eye is perfectly reasonable, because after living through over a year of daily constant noise, I think my next door neighbors aren't deserving of a single moment of peace from now on.

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So fucking much this. They have no respect for the owls

[–] mouserat@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

And they are so f*cking proud of being up early as if a short sleep is something worth to accomplish

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I wake the morning people up I'd have to spend time with them, which kind of defeats the purpose of being a night person.

[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

Hah, yeah I learned I wasn't so much a night person as much as someone who indulges in revenge sleep procrastinating and doesn't get enough alone time in the day.

[–] hrimfaxi_work@midwest.social 57 points 1 year ago

"Sure is dark in this room. Better turn on every light in the county."

[–] sagrotan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I tried my whole life to get up early, one day I just gave up. Started my own company, bought a house - now I live and work like nature made me. No, I wear clothes, it's just the sleep. Btw it's interesting when you're hiring how many people are like that and love the hours. I can recommend that to every night person.

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[–] clavismil@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked in the nightshitf for almost 2 years and can confirm this is so true.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This was me when my ex was asleep on the left, her when I was asleep on the right.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How else am I supposed to signal to the night owls that it's time to hit the bed before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

[–] uis@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

before they got to wake up in 2 hours?

I wonder why

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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Literlly my roomate. He sometimes even goes through the house with a horn.

Those are the moments I wish for not living with him together.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Tell me you've never lived above a bar without saying you've never lived above a bar

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I live a full 100 meters from a bar but every fucker leaving will scream at full volume as they are leaving. I'm so desensitized from women screaming at night that I could miss a genuine rape outside my front door and not even roll over.

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[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That’s almost as bad as the geniuses that build luxury properties right next to race tracks, then petition to have the race tracks shut down for lowering property values.

Unless the bar somehow snuck up on you?

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

both are the second picture

[–] newtraditionalists@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

yeah, in my experience night owls are just as inconsiderate

[–] 31415926535@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's a sleep disorder, diurnal, common for people with adhd. Their brains don't wake up, start functioning til 6pm, wide awake all night.

I'm so careful, courteous at night, super quiet, walking softly... then 6am, morning people wake, stomping, slamming, music blasting. So not fair.

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[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

If you're sleeping off a night shift and I'm up early I'll be quite as a church mouse. But if you're just laying in bed for no reason then you can deal with the noise of whatever I need to get done

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Why? Night owls aren't allowed to sleep until they wake up by themselves?

Morning persons are allowed to fall asleep whenever they want. You don't see us shouting just because you are already asleep before 12 'o clock.

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