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Having been a (GNU-)Linux user since 2006 (desktop only), I have done what many Linux users have also done: hop around from one thing to another.

That all stopped a few years ago when I decided that I would just stick with Debian. I was happy and comfortable. It worked. I used Stable, Testing, Unstable... no issues.

That is until about 4 months ago I was cleaning and found an older laptop and decided to try something different on it: Alpine Linux.

I even wrote about it on my blog. It was such a nice installation and process that I decided to put it on my main personal laptop.

Since April I have been using Alpine and I must say I am pleased. Differences from one Linux to the next aren't much to write about. With Alpine however, I finally experienced another part of Linux that I hadn't had the opportunity to enjoy: the community.

Package requesting? Easy. Asking for help? No shame. Patience and help provided? Excellent.

None of those comments are to disparage other OS communities. It is simply that I had only ever used popular distros (Debian- and Arch-based) so I never needed to ask for help. Either way, I am still using Alpine.

So, just to repeat the titular question: what have you tried out this year? What are your impressions?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't consider different Linux distros to be different OSes. I was expecting to read people trying out Haiku, ReactOS, Solaris, any of the *BSDs, or something I've never heard of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

If you want something obscure barely anyone heard about try eComStation. Unfortunately you'll have to pirate it, but its really easy to find.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Wow, I am definitely getting old if OS/2 is “obscure”

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Good point. I should have worded my question differently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean even Solaris and the BSDs are just different flavors of Unix

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

... and Linux is not Unix. BSD and Solaris are, in my opinion, much better than any Linux. The problem is that BSD suffers from hardware incompatibility, and there are very few application programs for the current Solaris.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

You are not the only one. Haiku is getting close to daily driver capability.

You cannot practically use it on real hardware yet but one to watch is SaerenityOS.

It is unfinished enough to be a pipe dream but RavynOS is cool.

I am not sure there is anything outside the POSIX space that is really usable as a desktop on current hardware.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I remember how much I loved using Solaris in the 1990s in the computer lab at college. People still use Solaris? I never saw something as elegant and intuitive as Solaris in those old days.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed because i really like that its rolling release, new software and stable. Im using it as a main distro now. It has everything i need.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OpenSUSE is one of the distros that I have never tried. If Alpine ever fails me, I think I'll give it a try.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I distro hopped a lot and i always had a reason to switch. With OpenSUSE i still didnt find a reason.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm usually an Arch person (btw) but I've been playing around with NixOS in a VM and I'm tempted to try daily driving it...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I was tempted to give NixOS a try as well. It seems to be highly recommended on the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I finally got fed up with Windows 11 when an update broke itself during an update. Apparently it was a pretty widespread issue. Defender got disabled because the update renamed several files.

I moved to PopOS and have been happy ever since. I couldn't believe that almost everything on my Lenovo Flex 5 just worked, including the touchscreen, pen, and 360 degree hinge. The only thing that doesn't work is the finger print sensor apparently due to lack of available drivers.

I really like how modern PopOS feels.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm in a similar boat although PopOS has been problematic for some gaming that was fine on Ubuntu (until an nVidia update broke the entire system).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

opensuse kalpa - the KDE version of its immutable desktop. Pretty neat combination of rolling core and applications separated out primarily into flatpak and other containers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

PopOS. Pretty satisfied.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS and Arch Linux. Both amazing. I'm staying indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I gotta get into Arch someday. How's your experience so far? Easy to use? (I'm sure it is, the wiki is very detailed) Glad to see you like GOS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I've been using Pop_OS! for most of the year, but recently switched to kUbuntu to try out the latest KDE beta with tiling managers, among other reasons.

I'm thinking of trying out Blend OS for my next hop!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm not particularly militant about Linux distros, but Alpine is one distro I disapprove of in particular. The reason is that it isn't GNU/Linux -- it strips out (copyleft) GNU libc and coreutils and replaces them with permissively-licensed alternatives. I think that (whether intentional or not) it caters too much to corporate interests that exploit "open source" without truly respecting the users' freedom, and therefore its popularity is potentially harmful to the Free Software movement in the long run.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I played with plan 9. It was pretty neat, and was able to setup a remote drawterm session.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I'm running Linux Mint Debian Edition after years of being biased against Mint for their early security missteps. I'm not in love with the cinnamon desktop but it is very definitively acceptable

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I have been using Debian for the last 20 years or so. I also had a brief encounter with Gentoo which was a big help to dive into compiling, specially kernels adjusted to low performant and old hardware. I have been using Debian for my servers (web mostly) but discovered FreeBSD and jails for myself this year. It didn't take long to convet my primary webserver to FreeBSD. Until now, no complains. I have an easy way to isolate websites and services in their own jail allowing users to access theirs without conpromising host security.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Linux Mint Cinnamon. It's been good, no complaints. Very helpful for easing into Linux by having a GUI, and I've been learning CLI and bash scripting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linux mint was the first distro I fell in love with as a beginner.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Windows 11. Once you remove the ads and restore the old Taskbar/Start Menu, It's a decent modern OS. AutoHDR is so good. I never have to worry about toggling it on/off, nor calibrating it for each and every game. Just set it once and forget it.

If you care about HDR, then there's no better OS ATM.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have hopped around using VMs in the past, however this year my HDD was dying (bad sectors after about 8-ish years of use), so got an SSD and decided to install Linux instead of cloning my Windows 10 Pro.

I tried going on Debian 11 testing, but there was some issue with the installer displaying any text (as you can imagine this makes it almost impossible to install the OS...) So I hopped to Fedora for a bit -till it broke while I was trying to figure out how to run Windows games, and then to PopOS.

I'm wondering to go to Debian 12 Testing, but need to figure out how I want to partition my SSD otherwise I am currently having to keep erasing everything which of course means I am having to copy data after each new install. This will work till such time that my HDD is alive.

Any suggestions?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Debian 12 is stable now. Testing doesn’t really have a version, it is rolling. What is currently testing will eventually become 13.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I messed around with Steam OS. Seems capable. It works for what it is. I haven't used any Linux distro other than that for the last year since last year I tried Manjaro, Fedora, OpenSuse, and Linux Mint, but all failed to pass my basic tests, because I was using KDE, Nvidia, and Wayland, most failed to even boot into the live CD. Looking at you Fedora and OpenSuse! I've been using Linux since 2007 in some form or another. Had it as my daily driver at one point and gave up on it. Been waiting for it to finally mesh with the majority of my workflow.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I did the exact opposite, and set up a virtual machine with Windows 3.1 yesterday.

Now if only I had my old apps…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i normally wouldn't consider distributions to be a diffrent OS , but i think fedora silverblue has been diffrent enough to be worth a mention.

immutable distros seem like a rather drastic change, but it hasn't been as jaring as i would have expected.

my biggest takeaway sofar has been, that flatpacks aren't as bad & slow as i thought.

the only issue i encountered with them has been the terminal in vscode,
which (understandably) starts in the flatpack env.
i found a workarround that immediatly enters my toolbox, but unfortunatly, that broke just now.

im still unsure about the tradeoffs that immutable distros bring, (imo thats hard to judge)
but so far nothing has steered me away from it.

if i where to stop using immutable distros,
id surely continue to rely on tool/distro boxes and flatpacks

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Tried Windows 11. Ran back to Win 10 a few days later.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I tried PopOS finally after many glowing reviews... and it was beautiful, snappy and had lots of unique features. But while it was very friendly, I had trouble finding my way around. I think still aimed at linux users who are a little more knowledgable. (Not me.)

Ultimately I am too basic and went back to Mint.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting. I haven't used Pop, but I had always been under the impression that it was meant to be as easy as Mint.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I recently installed Arch Linux on my Dell Latitude laptop from 2015, it had been running Ubuntu since 2019. I love it, and now I'm considering also installing it on my gaming desktop which has Fedora 38 on it right now. Most things can be installed with pacman or the AUR and it runs very fast on this oldish laptop. Still using i3 for my window manager, but I started using bumblebee-status for the status_command part of i3bar and customized my theme, highly recommend!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It was time for me to return to Linux, which I've been using on and off for two decades. This time I wanted to give Nobara a go, with its optimizations for gaming. But alas, the LiveUSB is unusable. The default options lead to a black screen (I guess when the kernel framebuffer kicks in), and the "troubleshooting" option gives me a desktop that crashes in a few minutes, when still setting up the options in the installer. I guess Wayland is too unstable.

So I returned to Gentoo and am now in the middle of installing that (again). Its LiveUSB system is stable and giving me no problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I installed Haiku since not having played with it in early alpha stages. I have no real use case for it, but it has really come along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I started fiddling with NixOS and it quickly became my Docker host and my virtual desktop. I don't know if I'm going to put it on my physical desktop but the idea is tempting.

I don't know if NixOS is going to take off but it seems like something the enterprise IT world may adopt and I want to be on that train.

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