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My wife found out Saturday through an ancestry.com DNA test that her dad is not her actual biological father. Her mother had a supposed one time incident with a man she found on Facebook through the names on the ancestry test. Her parents separated when she was 6. She wasn't close with her dad over the years, but there was nothing ugly about it. Now she has been getting closer with him. She doesn't want to tell him that he's not her biological father, as that would hurt the relationship.

I told her she needs to tell him, because honesty is a building block of a relationship and that he's still her father. If he finds out through the test that he took too (and didn't put it together that she's not his), then he will be devastated that she didn't say anything. My question is, should she tell him or not?

I'll support her decision either way, but I think honesty is the right thing. The right thing isn't always the easy thing. I understand that her Dad, who raised her, will always be her true father to her.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I vote for no, there's nothing to gain from telling him.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"her dad is not her actual biological father"

Who cares. he is her dad.

But seriously, while pedantic I think differentiating between "dad" and "father" is part of the solution here. Your title leans into one of the most abrasive ways she could break the news (I know that wasn't a proposed phrasing). "Your my dad, I love you, but turns out your not my bilogical father" is much more palatable way to break the news, and puts the focus on what's actually important.

Either way, as you said, it's her decision. Even if agreement from us commenters is unanimous she should chuck out all our opinions and do what she thinks is right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

He may have been your father, boy, but he wasn't your daddy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2JQkw80YQo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like the first thing you said kind of goes without saying and of course she wouldn't put him on a tee and blast him with "you ain't my daddy." I guess I'm just looking to put my thoughts out somewhere, because I can't talk to anyone about it. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I know it's not intentional, but the language does matter. By saying "she's not his daughter" as in the title, it suggests to anyone who has kids that are not biologically related to them, that they are not their kids. Similarly, when people talk of someone's "real parents".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No.

What good will come of it? What bad will come of it?

I can't think of a good, but for a bad he could have his heart broken.

He's her dad. He raised her. Anything else is unimportant after this.

If he finds out and asks her, that is the answer.

"You are my dad."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Extremely well put. I understand @[email protected] 's point of view, that honesty is the best policy - but I do think this is one of the few exceptions to that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

When I was in my early 20s I found out my dad isn't my biological dad. He doesn't know and I never told him. I agree with this advice and reasoning 100%.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There are some things you should sleep on for a night.

And there are some things you should sleep on for a month.

Then there is this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That's a good point. She said that she needs to process before talking to him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is something we used to deal with regularly on /r/adoption and /r/genealogy. As painful as it is, there's just no good way to keep a secret like this once the genie is out of the bottle. There are too many ways for it to click for Dad, and too many different vectors for the information to make it to him even if he doesn't piece things together.

Only she can make the decision and only she knows her dad, but OP's wife should probably have a private conversation with him and explain that the test is not wrong, with sensitivity and emotional truth. Of course he'll be hurt and embarrassed. He might be angry, but by hiding it, especially when he's interested in AncestryDNA (which, btw, is rock solid at this scale), she'd just be adding onto the list of people who've lied to him and who decided they were equipped to make decisions for him. She's just hoping to play kick the can until he dies, and that's no way to have an honest relationship with someone you love.

The toolset available to those who want to be unfaithful has simply shrunk in the last 10-20 years. There is a lot of family hurt that is coming out due to it, and IMHO it is a fool's errand to try to deny it exists, rather than mitigate it with love and empathy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

This is something we used to deal with regularly on /r/adoption and /r/genealogy

Sounds like an opertunity to build the community here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for putting how I feel so elegantly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The honest truth is... It doesn't matter. Being a dad/father is not the same as being a genetic donor.

Your wife is not the cheater here and has no obligation to say anything. Again, because it doesn't matter.

The easy thing is to immediately tell him. The hard thing is to let the past stay in the past. If he finds out on his own means, and cares enough to roach the topic, it's a great time to have the conversation about what a father is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The easy thing is to immediately tell him.

Tell that to my wife

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Dude, you focused on 1 sentence and missed the point.

#1 It is Your WIFE'S relationship. Stay out of it unless she asks for advice.

#2 Your wife knows her dad better than you do. Trust her.

#3 Biology does not make a parent. She believes her genetics is irrelevant to her relationship with her father. She's probably right. Odds are that he's suspected she's biologically not his for a while anyway.

#4 He took the test, too. He knows. Knowing that she knows and is still seeking him out as though nothing has changed probably means the world to him. No need to confront something they both are ignoring.

#5 Your wife is a full-grown, functioning adult with a mature relationship with her father. She can make these decisions without your assistance. Quit it.

Also, if you undermine this and leak it in any way, she has every right to leave you. This could be divorce-worthy behavior.

Stay. Out. Of. Her. Relationship. With. Her. Dad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I could upvote this a dozen times, I would. Well said.

Let your wife handle it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am letting her handle it. I just can't talk to anyone about it and I needed to get this all out of me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Totally understandable. It's a big deal and you need to be able to tell someone for your sanity.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Don’t tell. If he finds out she can say she already knew but doesn’t care because it changes nothing Dad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If he took a test at the same time, and knows she did as well, won’t he be asking about the results?

I think she should tell him, but also stress that to her she is his Dad, and if she isnt intending on tracking down her biological donor she should make that clear also. He was the one there throughout the years, he is the one trying to make an effort now. It sounds like she loves him and is afraid of losing him, give her some time to absorb and process. Maybe she could talk to a therapist to help her sort this out, and for tips on the best language to use etc?

I mean I’m estranged from my father and I would be having big feeling finding out something like this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He did ask. She matched with her mom's side, he matched with his side. She matched with people neither of them have ever heard of and he thinks it's some sort of error. I think it's so unbelievable to him that it's not even a possibility in his brain.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Oof, that’s sad. I think she needs to tell the truth and that she is afraid of paying the price and losing her father, no matter the dna, because her mom was stupid enough to not only cheat, but to do it unprotected.

I have a lot of sympathy for all of you, except her mother. I also think he may be afraid, or just in denial but that doesn’t mean he will stay that way. She owes him the truth, even though it was never her lie or responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If he took the test too, he knows about it. If he wants to talk about it, he will. And if he wants to know why she didn't raise it, it's because he is still her dad.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

My supposedly biological father refused to even take a dna test with me. We aren’t close, he doesn’t even call. But when I asked him to take the test with me when we were lay together, he said, “At any rate, you’re mine now and it doesn’t matter.” I appreciated that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I would say tell him, it might suck but another aspect is your wife might want to find her biological father in the future. It would be weird to do that without telling the man who raised her I think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think so. It doesn't do anything except confirm mom cheated and that he didn't create a life. Let the past live in the past and be a close, loving family today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree, hiding things is not healthy for any kind of relationship

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want to ask her if she cheated on me, would it be ok to hide that because it might hurt me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don’t put her mom sins on her. Her mom is who lied originally, not her.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I see her withholding the truth as continuing the lie, but you are right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I think the question she should ask herself is what's the cost. What it will cost him, if she insists on pursuing. Apparently they somehow already discussed the topic (since he did ask her about the results), it's already "not even a possibility in his brain" that she's not his bio (or he's really pulling an IDGAF), so is it really worth digging further and forcing him to acknowledge that it's "not an error"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, though obviously you have to do it in a way that doesn't ruin the relationship.

Something akin to "I have to tell you something important, can we talk over coffee?"

Have her break the news in-person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The truth is usually the right answer, and I think it is in this case too. However she should consider how it would affect her mother too.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, I don't think there is anything good to it only hurt. Would you rather know after raising someone as a kid for decades?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

watch guardians of the galaxy part two and try to convince anyone that he's not an important part of her life afterwards. it'll be impossible.

just because he ain't her father, that don't mean he ain't her dad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There is no upside to telling him this news. Worst case, he breaks all contact. Best case, his daughter has broken his heart, even with the best of intentions.

Let sleeping dogs lie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just tell to him asap, don't wait a scene. Love always understand whatever they've been going through. Just properly say or confirm with her mother (only parents should know her birth actually) if she's his biological daughter, and make a clear & well-mannered discussion despite emotions will arouse. Upon whatever the result will be, love will never make them think that they'll be going cold/apart just because they be not lineally related. If the unproven father truly cares her, he must be so so much mature (cause he's literally adult and old I guess to understand those circumstances) to handle and decide himself for his becoming unbiological daughter and their family without despising/harming each other like children' tantrums—why would he burn the bridge (after be hurt from her telling the truth) after all they've been bonding and caring together for so many long years as if does he really know(love) her at all?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Honestly, he probably knows. Really not a good situation but in the end she should tell him. It will weigh on her to keep it to herself, I think.

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