this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2023
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Apparently, I've been under a rock as today's thread from Cory Doctrow - @pluralistic@mamot.fr is the first I had heard of this.

Where I live such entertainers are considered independent contractors (1099) and as such it is ILLEGAL for them to unionize. Is there something different in California that qualifies them as employees (W2)?

If not, how did they get around the capitalist governments' rules?

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[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Arent voice actors independant contractors and have a union, why would it stop other groups?

[–] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the first thing I found when I did an internet search NRLB limits ability for Independent Contractors to Form a Union

As a pro wrestling fan the independent contractor gimmick is what I've always heard is the reason wrestlers can't form a union. For a short time this became mainstream attention after Jordon Oliver covered it.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I think the idea is that its harder (hence limit) but not outright illegal, hence how voice actors do have a union, despite being independent contractors.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldnt. The bigger issue is strippers generally dont do it for a long time, harder to form a union when theres high turnover.

[–] CCL@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While some entertainers do it for a short time, there are plenty that do it for 20+ years.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

True, very true. Admittedly, I don't go to strip clubs. Never felt the need when internet porn exists.

But I do know that turnover is often encouraged to help keep unions from forming.