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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 183 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

With that price I feel like the dev has 0 faith in lemmy getting very big and feels like they need to capitalize on the currently few users to make back costs. I mean, not even an early access price considering its in beta still

[–] XanXic@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Yeah this feels like early adopter tax. Get your money off people who don't blink at stuff like $100 for a beta app for a small reddit that's literally just a front end.

Then lower the price slowly. Like I feel like there are more Lemmy apps than Reddit ones. It's pretty gauling to charge so much and essentially take everything from server owners by putting this up front for people trying it from Reddit.

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[–] commandar@kbin.social 62 points 2 years ago (8 children)

With that price I feel like the dev has 0 faith in lemmy getting very big

It feels kind of the opposite to me.

Going back and checking my Google account history, I paid $1 for Sync Pro. In 2012. And was using it up until last month. In retrospect, that was far too low a price for the utility I got out of the app for literally years.

If anything, it feels like the dev has learned that lesson and has priced the lifetime option where it's actually sustainable for them if Lemmy stays around.

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[–] ljdawson@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The literal opposite. I'm working on this fulltime and giving it everything I can.

[–] tehevilone@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

And this is why I don't mind the cost increase from old Sync.

I bought Sync Pro all the way back in 2014, and considering how long it's been since then, plus the sub-2 month delivery time for Sync for Lemmy, I think you've more than earned an ultra sub from me!

Thanks for the hard work.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's very cynical point of view. This is for the Ultra version, which incurs recurring cost to the developer for providing extra features which requires running some servers on their side. I myself spent that much just for running a Lemmy server for two months. They still have one time $20 option that don't include services that require the external servers.

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[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 115 points 2 years ago (3 children)

God damn that’s expensive.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Yeah, this Dev seems to be counting on the idea that everyone in lemmy will forget that there are perfectly good free apps out there, and that all the other 3rd party Reddit devs are working on their own lemmy versions.

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[–] plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 79 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Lol. I uh. Guess I didn't want a one time payment option after all.

[–] luna@lemmings.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure there's still going to be an ad free one time payment though, Sync ultra has more than just ad free browsing. Personally I only want to remove the ads so if it's priced like the pro version was then I'll be happy

[–] svellere@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's $20 USD to just remove ads permanently.

[–] luna@lemmings.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oof yeah I just saw, that's a bit pricey for me honestly especially because Lemmy doesn't really have enough content at the moment to spend a lot of time on...

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[–] peterpan520@feddit.de 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The ad-free version is already available fΓΌr 21,99 €. Not going to lie, I expected the old reddit prices and was going to buy Ultra lifetime for 33 €...

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[–] SaltyLemon@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (24 children)

I liked the app so far but WHAT THE FUCK. I would be willing to pay 10$ to remove ads but not fucking 100$. Subscription base services are the cancer of technology.

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[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 46 points 2 years ago

at that price you could afford the reddit api.. not that i'd want to

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

wow isn't that like 6 years of subscription? so expensive

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean, I used sync for reddit for like 10 years.

[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, but Lemmy’s a newer platform and might not stick around for 6 years, IF it takes off like Reddit did. $100 is a bit too steep, if I’m being honest.

[–] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then buy the monthly or yearly? The lifetime is just a third option.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 years ago (7 children)

$50 wouldn't have nearly as much of a negative reaction. $100 is awfully steep for a community as small as Lemmy.

But I'm glad the yearly sub is only $17, so I may get that instead.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago

I personally would never pay a subscription for a 3rd party Lemmy app. That defeats some part of why I moved to Lemmy to begin with.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 years ago

My last app, Now for Reddit, charged $4 to unlock all the features of the app, including no ads.

[–] xtract@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago
[–] Freez@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Just use FOSS apps for Lemmy. There are plenty good ones. Thanks to all devs and contributors!

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[–] yewler@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So I'm not an app developer, so I might be completely off base, but I don't really understand a lot of the arguments against this.

Firstly, there's an ad free one time cost that in my opinion seems very fair. Secondly, as I'm looking through the feature for Ultra, most of the features seem to be things that require an external server. I'm not sure how push notifications work so I can't comment on it, but syncing settings across devices for example doesn't happen at the instance level. That kind of thing could only be done through a server owned by the dev. However, it is very likely that the dev doesn't own a server, and is instead renting on a VPS, which is a subscription for them. So in order to provide these particular services, the dev has to pay a subscription. So would it not make sense that those that enjoy the benefits of this subscription the dev pays, also have to pay a subscription? In my mind that simply seems fair, in order to support a dev that has clearly put a lot of time and effort into making a great app.

The user base for Lemmy is significantly smaller than Reddit. The dev needs a smaller number of people to be able to support the operating costs of the app (as well as the wellbeing of the dev) which means that necessarily a different (and steeper) pricing model would be necessary.

I do not think it's fair to claim that Lemmy API access is free and therefore there are no operating costs, because there's more to the app than API calls. It is indeed correct that API access is free, which seems to me to be the precise reason why there exists a free version of the app that you don't have to pay for in the first place. All API calls within the app are free. There are no paywalled Lemmy API calls, at least from what I can tell. But again if I'm wrong I'll admit it if someone can inform me.

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[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I know I'm cheap and I know this app is great and is a lot of work but fuck, this is expensive. Subscriptions are the worst model capitalism can offer. And the one time payment price is ridiculous, I can't afford that.

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[–] o_oli@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's wild. Like man I'm impressed with Sync and think it's great but you'd have to be using it for 7 years for this to be worth it...Lemmy is so new you'd be mad to be making a gamble like this.

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[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even Apollo Ultra was $50, and people thought that was expensive…

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[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lifetime wasn't available when I subscribed. :(

I assume that's $100 USD in America?

It's expensive, but Sync is literally the best app on my phone, and has been that way for a long time. I'd consider it.

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[–] FreddyNO@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago
[–] Teknikal@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

I feel like the dev is trying to cash out, his apps good but reddit screwed him so I do kinda understand but he's priced me out.

[–] shashi154263@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

β‚Ή9900!!!

I bought 2 smartphones for my friends last month. Combined total cost of those was roughly β‚Ή10200.

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Or use one of the myriad of other ad-free apps?

I don't get the fanboi-ism, it didn't blow my socks off when I was on Reddit either. I used Slide and RIF.

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sync is polished with an experienced dev. All of the other free Lemmy apps have some kind of compromise. They're fine, but they definitely feel like they are free.

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[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 13 points 2 years ago
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