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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Love how they always say "the experts" but never mention what fucking experts they are.

Give me some names instead of just saying "some expert said it"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

To be fair, they usually say which experts in the article. Just nobody reads the articles πŸ™ˆ

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The "Experts" are flying all over the world in their private jets, emitting more pollution than I do in a year

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think most people who qualify as experts on this matter are doing that in the slightest... but ok buddy. Let's group the politicians and scientists together then?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cuz scientists are immune to moral corruption? Anyone can be bought, man

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

The whole point of the scientific method is that it’s self-correcting. Corrupting one scientist doesn’t matter because the scientific consensus will show that they’re wrong.

But corrupt one (or a few) politicians and you can get laws changed for your benefit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

How and why? They are usually professors who regret not taking a well-paying job from some company.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

It's a catch-all term from professional to nutcase lol.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It's always some think tank ghoul

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have lived in the desert my whole life. So I guess I'm an expert now. I can tell you that it's hot as fuck and it can still kill me. No amount of planned "exposure" is going to prevent dehydration or heat exhaustion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lack of humidity in the air is a big problem, but op does have a point. As a person living near the equator I'm surprised by how many people are intolerant to temperatures which I find comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've heard too much humidity is a bigger problem. Keeps your body from being able to cool itself down with sweat, making you likely to overheat. With desert heat you're probably fine if you have water and shelter from the sun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Large swaths of the earth will be made inhospitable to humans because of a deadly mix of high humidity and heat. Our society needs to to accommodate this and develop shelters, otherwise our streets will be littered with the bodies of homeless and working poor who were forced to brave the outside.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Mostly.

What really matters for hyperthermia is the "wet bulb" temperature. Basically, the temperature you get when you wrap a thermometer with a wet cloth, simulating the cooling you get from sweat.

120Β° F with 5% relative humidity is a wet bulb temperature of about 69Β°.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah actually it's not even so much about the humans. Humans can deal with changing temperatures. Plants (that we eat) cannot.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wet bulb temp of 95Β° F is the start of deadly heat for humans. That'd be about 109Β° @ 50% humidity, or 130Β° with dry air. I'd say it'll be a crap shoot next year, when El Nino is in full swing, whether we see more crop or human death from the heat. But for a glorious moment, we created a lot of value for the shareholders...

THIS IS FINE!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A recent study suggested that the safe upper limit in wet bulb conditions might be closer to 88F. Link to an article discussing the research

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Wow. Trouble. And in our road.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can I ask where you learned that info? I’ve never heard it put that way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well a quick search found this...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature

Basically the air is warmer and wetter so the human body cannot shed heat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

dis is how a sauna works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Never read the wiki before. Thanks. Terrifying

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As somebody who goes through the extremely hot August summer heat where I live I will tell you that no you don't get used to the heat if you're exposed to too much heat you'll develop heat exhaustion, and if you keep going you'll get heat stroke which can kill you.

What I'm wondering though is did Washington compost actually say this, or was it just made for the meme? Honestly if they did I would not be surprised in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

This is true, to a degree. People that live in hot climates slowly become more tolerant to heat in general. This isn't true in all cases, not is it true past a certain temperature. For instance, once you surpass the wet bulb temperature, it's not going to matter how tolerant you've become to heat, yo're probably going to end up with heat exhaustion and/or heat stroke.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

This is the "All Lives Matter" of Climate change.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Actually true. I'd been wearing an orthopedical corset for a good chunk of my life, now I'm really tolerant to heat, like others may be literally dying while I would be alright.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

@[email protected]

this is the source and fun to follow :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s a climate solution because using your A/C less uses less energy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually using your AC is one thing, incorrectly disposing of it and the gases therein is another thing all together. A ton of the refrigerating gasses in an AC (or your fridge or freezer) is equivalent of up to 22,800 tons of CO2.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/calculate-the-carbon-dioxide-equivalent-quantity-of-an-f-gas

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting! I’ve never thrown one away and always sold it to the next person so I never looked into this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It applies to fridges and freezers too. As long as the gasses are disposed of properly it's fine though.