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The American Matthew Butterick has started a legal crusade against generative artificial intelligence (AI). In 2022, he filed the first lawsuit in the history of this field against Microsoft, one of the companies that develop these types of tools (GitHub Copilot). Today, he’s coordinating four class action lawsuits that bring together complaints filed by programmers, artists and writers.

If successful, he could force the companies responsible for applications such as ChatGPT or Midjourney to compensate thousands of creators. They may even have to retire their algorithms and retrain them with databases that don’t infringe on intellectual property rights.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see the US restricting AI development. No matter what is morally right or wrong, this is strategically important, and they won't kneecap themselves in the global competition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strategically important how exactly?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great power competition / military industrial complex . AI is a pretty vague term, but practically it could be used to describe drone swarming technology, cyber warfare, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LLM-based chatbot and image generators are the types of "AI" that rely on stealing people's intellectual property. I'm struggling to see how that applies to "drone swarming technology." The only obvious use case is in the generation of propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You could use LLM like AI to go through vast amounts of combat data to make sense of it on the field and analyze data from mass surveillance. I doubt they need much more excuses.

Case could be made tech bros have overhyped the importance of AI to military industrial complex but it nevertheless has plenty of nasty uses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The only obvious use case is in the generation of propaganda.

It is indeed. I would guess that's the game, and is already happening.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luddites smashing power looms.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's worth remembering that the Luddites were not against technology. They were against technology that replaced workers, without compensating them for the loss, so the owners of the technology could profit.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moreover, Luddites were opposed to the replacement of independent at-home workers by oppressed factory child labourers. Much like OpenAI aims to replace creative professionals by an army of precarious poorly paid microworkers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep! And it's not like a lot of creative professionals are paid all that well right now. The tech and finance industries do not value creatives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Obviously I can't speak for all countries, but in mine, an artist and a programmer with the same years of experience working for the same company will not be getting the same salary, despite the fact that neither could do the other's job. One of those salaries will be slightly above minimum wage (which is currently lower than the wage needed to cover the cost of living), and the other will be around double the national average wage. So there are in fact artists using food banks right now, and it's not because the creatives aren't working as hard as the tech professionals. One is simply valued higher than the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meritocracy is a myth used to control people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If successful, he could force the companies responsible for applications such as ChatGPT or Midjourney to compensate thousands of creators. They may even have to retire their algorithms and retrain them with databases that don’t infringe on intellectual property rights.

They will readily agree to this after having made their money and use their ill gotten gains to train a new model. The rest of us will have to go pound sand as making a new model will have been made prohibitively expensive. Good intentions, but it will only help them by pulling up the ladder behind them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't be pulling up the ladder behind them if we force them to step down that ladder and burn it by retraining their models from scratch "with databases that don't infringe on intellectual property rights".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m an artist and I can guarantee his lawsuits will accomplish jack squat for people like me. In fact, if successful, it will likely hurt artists trying to adapt to AI. Let’s be serious here, copyright doesn’t really protect artists, it’s a club for corporations to swing around to control our culture. AI isn’t the problem, capitalism is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe licensing comments isn't that crazy, aye? 😉

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dumbass. YouTube has single-handedly proven how broken the copyright system is and this dick wants to make it worse. There needs to be a fair-er rebalancing of how people are compensated and for how long.

What exactly that looks like I'm not sure but I do know that upholding the current system is not the answer.