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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m looking forward to FDroid both because I support open source and because it’ll presumably be called Fapple or the Fapp Store and really disappoint some confused horny people when it’s just things like Termux and privacy apps.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like F-Apple. Don't pronounce it.

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re talking about the internet, here…

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could've put NSFW tag on that. Maybe someone would like to pronounce FAPPLE aloud in a public transport and everyone start ro furiously masturbate? I can't take this responaibility. And are we really react IRL at what we read?

When I laugh at jokes on the internet, I don't actually laugh. I just blow more air out of my nose or mouth than usual

PS I got you, I'm pretty much overusing obscene words there, I've just remembered that rage comic-era picture.

[–] ioslife@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

FiOS makes the most sense to follow the naming convention.

AltStore also already exists

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as i’m excited about this, “rumors predict” and “this is coming” are not the same

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, what else could they do except comply?

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's Apple we're talking about. They will find ways to continue gatekeeping this as hard as possible

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I mean TBF, everyone speculated that Apple would do some wacky antics to avoid putting a USB C port in their phones, like providing an adapter or removing it altogether.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Think Different

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love to see alternative operating systems, not just app stores.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Android or some other Linux based os on iPhone hardware anyone?

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's hardware we don't know how to write free software for, because they won't tell us how to use the hardware. That's shocking. They want to sell you the product and they won't tell you how to use it. They say "Here's a non-free [proprietary] program you can use. Run it and shut up."

Some time ago this was only about the peripetials and drivers, now this is about all phones, tablets and smart things...

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Upvoted for Stallman quote

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Upvoted for upvoting Stallman quote

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Sigh…unzips

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need true freedom not surface level sideloading. We need to be able to freely modify our devices. If I want to I should be able to install Linux on my phone.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess you could do this on Android via a bootloader unlock, lots of work, and a cup of coffee.

I mean Android is a Linux kernel already so I guess you mean some other distro.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want free as in freedom, not some watered down Google spyware. I don't care if it technically uses Linux if I'm still not free.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is nothing stopping you. Unlock the bootloader and you can do anything you want.

Write your own bootloader, os, etc. feel free.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would but I use AT&T so my bootloader is locked, on top of that "write your own" is impossible when the OEM doesn't provide schematics.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had AT&T with an unlocked bootloader. My Pixel is unlocked and can be bootloader unlocked. I'm sure you could find a phone that can have an unlocked bootloader.

Also, they have no reason to provide you with schematics or anything like that. Doing such a thing could give away a competitive advantage or give hints to competitors. If you really wanted, you could whip out the oscilloscope and trace leads, etc. You could also start with AOSP.

Once gain, you're free to do whatever. They're free to not give you info. Funny enough I guess in your case, they're free to restrict your bootloader. Freedom works in all directions: for better or worse.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why I believe in copyleft and the GPL, when corporations are free to sell devices without explaining how they function the users have no rights.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

You have the right to buy something else.

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how this will work where apple controls the OS and sort of controls the Dev tools.

The gatekeeper shall not be prevented from taking proportionate measures to ensure that third party software applications or software application stores do not endanger the integrity of the hardware or operating system provided by the gatekeeper;

To me that sounds like they won't have to offer root access to users, which is no suprise, but will they be able to continue to require certification of apps, even if they're sold on other stores?

I've only just skimmed the legislation so far.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Root is absolutely not required, you’re correct. But I don’t believe they would need to certify apps, since that kinda defeats one of the purposes.

This isn’t just “people should be able to not pay Apple a fee” it’s also “Apple has unreasonable control of the ecosystem and that is bad.” The moment Apple is allowed to just turn down whatever they don’t want on other stores, that second point is back in place.

Not to mention, Apple would be certifying apps either for free, or charging developers for that certification. Neither of which follows the spirit of the legislation.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

I wish this was coming to Australia. I wish I didn't have to pay ~$150 AUD to put my app on the store and not make any money after buying their stupid laptop as well