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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real, this algorithm is making people talk in a funny way to discuss anything, I cringe whenever someone has to say "unalive" or the video goes to the bottom of the feed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fucking newspeak. Corporate media must die

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

it's not newspeak, it might be euphemisms but the meaning of what is being said is alive and well, the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

the major hallmark of newspeak is to limit the ability to convey ideas via conversation

Slowly constricting the number of words that can be publicly spoken does work us toward that end. Folks who think they're cleverly sidestepping the latest hurdle are only getting corralled deeper into the pen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be precise, newspeak does function by a direct reduction of vocabulary. Instead, newspeak works by expanding the number of meanings a single word can have, so that every sentence can be interpreted as supportive of the party, and the 'grammatically correct' meaning of the sentence is the supportive interpretation.

The closest approximation of newspeak in English is the sentence "That didn't work, did it?" If you respond "Yes," that can be interpreted as "Yes, you are correct, that didn't work." And if you reply "No," that can't be interpreted as "No, that didn't work."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oz response: nah, yeah it worked mate

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Simple math, gotta cancel out the negative with your own negative and then affirm the positive

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so like how it limits the ability to convey ideas via conversation then?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Adapting language to bypass censorship is very much not Newspeak

It's quite literally the opposite of Newspeak, an artificial language designed to constrict speech and prevent the spread of complex ideas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Adapting language to bypass censorship is one of the dictionary definitions of Newspeak, a form of circumlocution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That was the end goal of Newspeak, but it hadn't been achieved. It was a slow process.

You could argue this is what they're doing, training people to talk in a sterilised way. That it would become so normalised that anybody trying to speak normally would be dismissed as cringey or whatever. All to the benefit of advertisers.

Maybe that's a huge leap, but I think that was the gist of what they meant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

avoiding certain words does not create newspeak, but rather the inability to use a limited set of words outside a given context, circumventing speech restrictions is arguably the least newspeak thing possible, as it basically makes any attempt at new speak impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's more comparable to 1337speak

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a community for the weirdest ads? I have a whole screenshot collection

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The internet is a corporate ces pit, we need to block and ignore adds and make marketing unviable, then we can reclaim our once free inherent !

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Boy born without a brain calls out to me the most out of all of these. It seems so relatable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YouTube turning into usual TV? Shocking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate YouTube and everything about influencer culture. Peertube is our best hope against it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I haven't tried alternatives since Odysee, seems like a "decentralized" platform without racism and crypto scams isn't possible at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At which point do political ideologies get shaped by "advertiser friendliness"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Always has been.

Remember to buy merch from your favourite monetized socialist because that'll sure change things!

All ideology is a scam. Maybe we should think for ourselves?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Btw, do not search for "cooking pokemon charmander"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How bad is it? I want to ruin a charmander loving friend's day but I would have to watch it with them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Youtube took down a video of a cop abusing a child. they said it was child endangerment. They’re not wrong but also this is a legal issue, that was a man of the law. This should be shared far and wide.