The fact that so many people support this man is sickening. If he is elected again, fairly, then this country deserves the doom that will follow.
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If he runs again and loses, I'm not confident that we still won't be fucked. The flat out refusal to recognize losing at all levels will start one hell of a wave of stochastic terrorism.
I don't even fucking care. Let the stochastic terrorism come; it's the least-bad alternative on the table at this point.
Make no mistake: capitulating to the fascists in any way is infinitely worse.
Absolutely! I refuse to give in because of the risk of what would happen. I just wish we weren't in this situation.
Im not confident in that either but this is a situation that the government is likely prepared for. They know that he’s the leader and if you shut him up or take him down then there’s no one to lead or stage coups or collective violence against the state. So his followers are welcome to do whatever they want but it’ll be predictable and infiltrated immediately just like Jan6 was.
However, if he wins there will be no way for the state to oppose him effectively. He’ll gut most of our major departments and do extremely unpopular things without opposition. And we already learned that presidents have far too much unchecked power. If he wins, buckle up.
If he wins, It’ll be because of all the gEnoCiDe jOe kids. They’re helping him more than they’ll ever know.
On one hand, you're not wrong. On the other hand, Biden could undercut their argument real quick by changing his mind about supporting Netanyahu.
I think standing against genocide is an admirable thing to do.
I know I know, it's not something that we're used too as Americans. We haven't had justified war since, what, Korea? Kuwait? War for spoils doesn't justify, imo. Helping an invaded ally, does.
Following, Israel's response isn't in line with the Hamas attack. Neither was America's war on Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11.
What was the stat? A full 60% of Palestinians in Gaza weren't even alive the last time hostilities broke out? But those kids are dying all the same. Bombing out refugee pathways -that Israel dictated even - really, REALLY isn't a good look. That Gaza has no hospitals left? Bibi openly talking about the forced removal of the whole region...that's CLEAR-AS-FUCKING-DAY genocide.
I got nothing against Jews, in fact, the closest people to me outside my blood family are Jewish. I LOVE Jews. I LOVE their perspective and expression of community and family. I fucking admire that in them. idgaf yr religion or where yr ancestors hail from, but after this shit, with the hard-line right and orthodoxy running things (everyone said Bibi sold his soul to make that coalition), if Zionism means imperialism, colonialism, apartheid, and hatred dressed up in whatever dog whistle you choose, then add Zionism to the list of things I dont support. It can share that stage with Nazism, Stalinism, Objectivism, Corporatism, Calvinism and many more other -isms I don't care to search for atm.
You don't get to take help after a tragedy just to recover your strength then seek your turn on top of the wheel of oppression. That gets us nowhere and exposes you as just as bad as your oppressors. Israel has lost any moral ground they might have claimed to have. They're just a terrorist state in my eyes and I don't want my taxes going to fund their hate campaigns.
I am not on the side of hate. Ever. It's that simple. And if that costs gEnOcIdAl jOe, as you say, the election, then, well, he fucking earned that. And RIP America then. If war breaks out in our soil, we'll never see peace on the continent again, not in our lifetimes, not in our children's lifetimes, and all the ecological damage from all that warring will prob ensure that our grandchildren or great-grandchildren will be the last generation.
Since mods are deleting comments here without reason, I’m not allowed to respond to you in disagreement.
They vote for him because they would act like him if they could.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulla's_proscription
Sulla wanted to take his revenge against the former supporters, who had declared him a public enemy in 88 BC. After having obtained a positive vote from a popular assembly, he published two lists with the names of his enemies. Those on the lists had their lives and property forfeit; rewards were given to those who assassinated the victims.
I believe that is Trump's plan. To have his base murder his enemies by offering them part of the spoils.
He might offer them part of the spoils, but there’s no chance they ever actually see any of it. Dude is famous for not paying his bills, why would he start now?
ALL PRESIDENTS MUST HAVE COMPLETE & TOTAL PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, OR THE AUTHORITY & DECISIVENESS OF A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BE STRIPPED & GONE FOREVER. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN EASY DECISION. GOD BLESS THE SUPREME COURT!
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Trump has publicly vowed to prosecute Joe Biden
Donny, if you get the courts to confirm that former Presidents have "TOTAL PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY" then how can you prosecute Biden? You know what, skip it. I'm sure that consequence of your actions never had the slightest possibility of crossing your dementia addled mind.
Frankly, if the courts should rule in Trump's favor on this (Note: Prior to 2016 I never would have entertained the possibility, but now... who the fuck knows what they'll do.) then Biden, as a sitting president, will have been declared above the law. He should simply revive old Gee Dubya's extraordinary rendition program and disappear old Donny into a foreign black site for the rest of his life. Maybe in Ukraine.
How about an OceanGate submersible for all the billionaires?
If a president cannot be charged with crime other than through impeachment: Presidency changes hands at noon on January 20th following election. Outgoing president murders incoming president minutes before inauguration. No path for impeachment, therefore get off Scott-free.
You don't even need that. The argument is that the president can't be charged until after he been impeached by the House, convicted by the Senate, and removed from office - then be can be impeached.
So, they've said he can order the SEALs to kill a political opponent. Let's say he does that. The House brings impeachment charges - well, it sure sounds like the guy who brought the charges is a political opponent, take him out. Other members of the opposition party might bring charges, so take them out. And hey, if we take out some of the "insufficiently loyal" members of our own party, we can ensure there isn't the quorum needed to impeach!
If it does somehow get through to the Senate, there's nothing to stop us doing the same thing with the Senate. And even if we're convicted, there's nothing to prevent us from ordering in troops to protect from those people who would try to remove us from office.
See? No need to wait for specific timing on specific dates - just do whatever you want, then kill anyone who tries to oppose you, easy peasy!
Fuck it, brandon could mow down every repub politician, declare himself prez for life, pass power to whomever he pleases, and no one can do fuck all about it.
They'll attack because they fear no consequences. Or They'll attack because they lost.
Win or lose, the red hats will attack. They are mad because the hate box told them to be mad.
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