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Yeah, because it couldn't possibly be that Americans are opposed to genocide.
For fuck's sake, Pelosi. Witch hunts are supposed to be a Republican thing.
wouldn’t be the first time Russia has done something like this, that said, how about we stop supporting genocide and it won’t matter
Wouldn't be the first time democrats have done this, either.
While it's all certainly Americans, and we don't like genocides, she is correct in assuming that Putin wants Trump to win, and this would be an effective way to further that goal.
Don't forget Putin was KGB.
I imagine it's more through social media manipulation and misinformation than FSB funding, I suppose I could be wrong. By way of example, though, how many times have you heard that white phosphorous is banned, even though that's not exactly true?
Imagine how out-of-touch you have to be to represent San Francisco and not realize sincere antiwar protesters exist.
Here is my completely nonpartisan hot take. We should pass a constitutional amendment that ties the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to the Social Security "Normal Retirement Age" at the time of passing. That is currently 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.
Do you want them to make the retirements age 90? I’d rather not give those assholes a perverse incentive to reduce benefits.
Aren't you actually proving her point?
You're saying that among protesters there are sincere ones.
A call for investigation means that there is a belief that among sincere ones there are also insincere ones trying to spin shit up.
Edit: of course downvotes. It isn't even a secret https://www.mei.edu/publications/essential-questions-about-russia-hamas-link-evidence-and-its-implications
It's an easy way to silence people you don't want to hear. Someone who believes there's sincerity in the sentiment doesn't start off with: "For them to call for a ceasefire is Mr Putin's message. Make no mistake. This is directly connected to what he would like to see."
It doesn't really matter what you justify it with afterward, you're still essentially saying opposing "war" in Gaza is supporting Putin.
It also implies that anti-war protesting is something that is problematic and should be looked into. Or, rather than being pro-Palestine is wrong, and that it's a sentiment that has to be caused by foreign influence.
Enough with the Hamas sideshow bullshit. You don't have to be a Hamas supporter to be upset that Israel is indiscriminately killing Palestinians. At this point, anything Hamas did on 10/7 pales in comparison to Israel's response.
It's no secret that there are corrupt politicians either. I think we should investigate this ghoul and her financial ties to supporting genocide first before we use the secret police on citizens expressing a desire for peace.
Sure, but lets also investigate the House for financial ties to billionaires.
Man, these fuckers really fucking hate their base.
"Hey guys, we need a surefire way to make our base stay home instead of vote when we have a literal fascist running who will end the Republic if he's allowed to win!"
Nancy: "Say no more fam, I got this."
You guys are getting paid!?
Turns out you don't need to get paid to support Palestinians, you just need to not be a huge piece of shit!
Wild I know.
This cunt needs to go the fuck away.
Dividing the party sounds like a Russian ploy. Can we investigate her first?
What an utter bitch. Your finances are the ones that should be investigated.
Shouldn't we instead be investigating the politicians currently in office that we have a really good reason to believe have a monetary tie to Russia and have a mountain of evidence of being coerced or controlled by them due to said politicians' past actions (going to a secret meeting to Moscow on July 4th, ect)?
Pelosi is just saying that opposition to genocide means you must be Russian, which is what I keep hearing from pro-genocide centrist Democrats on lemmy.
I don't get why those same centrists are turning on her.
Let's concede that the people organizing protests are receiving money from Russia. Is that actually a criminal matter? Apparently Trump's campaign working with Russia wasn't.
Those stupid fucks really want to lose the election
Nearly every Republican will vote for Trump. Meanwhile, the Democrats are notoriously fickle already, and have to convince enough independents to vote for them, and they're doing everything in their power to alienate people in both camps.
Typical establishment hubris. The other side supports fascism, so we dare you not to vote for us, or just the assumption that enough people support them out of the gate to win (like Hillary Clinton). And we are fucked by the two party system again.
Sure is encouraging to see the Democratic Party basically just becoming the villain from Dr Strangelove.
“Disinformation” has become to the left, what “fake news” is to the right - a cudgel to deflect dissent or crush differing options as false or astroturfed, and therefore not even worth discussion to dismiss
It's cute that you think Pelosi is "left-wing". Cute, but sad.
She’s not (by global nor US standards) but she did run the ‘left wing’ party in Congress for 20 years. So they certainly think she is.
As a liberal, peolsi is sham lol anyone not pro Palestine is just evil
If the cons want to understand (ah, who am I kidding, they don't want to understand anything) why many of us in the reality-based community chuckle about the idea of Pelosi even being half the liberal they seem to think she is...they might take a closer look here.
So this November Americans will be able to choose between literally a Nazi and someone who strongly supports genocide and treats anyone who doesn't support it as a traitor.
Good luck with that
Can they also investigate her insider trading?
Not that I think she has ties to Russia, but really the FBI needs to be investigating members of Congress for ties to Russia.
Pelosi and Biden are really making me regret defending them against right wing BS conspiracy claims and tankie conspiracy claims for the past decade.
