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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But honestly, how do you talk to those people? They're so caught up in their us-versus-them mentality and think they have the monopoly on truth, that I don't see any way of convincing them that they're not only making a potentially fatal mistake but are a danger to those around them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just don't bother TBH. Same with all these alt-right type people who keep trying to start pointless arguments online, I just ignore them. You can't combat nonsense with facts, they're not going to learn anything or change their views, I'm certainly not going to come around to whatever they're peddling, all they want to do is get their little dopamine hit by blasting bullshit at me until I give up because they think that's what winning is. It's a waste of time and energy as far as I'm concerned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There are times when it’s useful to engage these people, though never for the purpose of convincing them. Sometimes, there’s an opportunity to provide a counterpoint for anyone else “listening” who hasn’t yet been sucked into crazy-town, to help keep them away from that path.

I like to put it that “science education isn’t a cure, it’s a vaccine”; you can’t realistically change the mind of someone (especially of a stranger) who’s already bought in to a mindset like this; but in some cases, you can help prevent it from spreading.

That said, if you’re not particularly good at e.g. public speaking, or science outreach, or whatever, you can end up playing into a troll’s hands (assuming you’re interacting with an intentional troll and not just a deluded person). So it can be tricky, and personally I’m not very good at it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I mostly agree on the topic of fascists, with anti-vaxers just ignoring them basically means leaving them to die and potentially take a bunch of people with them, which seems rather cruel.
Even with fascists it boils down to hoping that whoever else they encounter is sufficiently immunised to not fall for their bullshit. Also less than ideal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well ideally they'd be the only ones to die, does solve the issue - and respects their wishes, they wanted that.

So I guess we just need to find ways to vaccinate the rest of us to such a degree that the idiots opting to die can't affect us. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

So I guess we just need to find ways to vaccinate the rest of us to such a degree that the idiots opting to die can't affect us.

Herd immunity, yes. And that's exactly why those page enthusiasts are so dangerous with their disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I’m immunosuppressed so even though I’ve had 6 vaccines now, I still might not have built up enough antibodies to help me survive covid if I catch it. I don’t really go anywhere and wear a mask when I do so I’m as safe as I can be… Except I need a carer to help me out for about 8 hours a week and an unbelievable amount of self employed carers aren’t vaccinated. These are people who work with the elderly and vulnerable and they refuse to get vaccinated. It’s absolutely mind boggling to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't. You shun them. You naturally do not tolerate the intolerant.

If someone makes a conscious decision to exit society, i shall respect their wishes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If they actually exited society no one would complain. Trouble is, they don't. They still want to have all the conveniences of society, like supermarkets, cinemas and whatever else, while spreading their germs around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes i have become a virus, destroyer of cells

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the virus, not join them!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

OMNOMNOM CELL MEAT

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You no longer have DNA

Bitch, it's a vaccine, not a lethal dose of radiation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

conspiracy theories are consistently just objectively cooler and more awesome than reality, like when conservatives start shouting about luxury gay space communism as if that's supposed to be bad.

I wish i lived in the world where we could inject people with something that turns their DNA into RNA and somehow they continue living, that's rad as hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No way is “the moon landing was faked” cooler than the fact humans walked on the moon 1961. And there is absolutely nothing cool about flat earthers!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

People like this can't be talked with, since they missed their lessons about what DNA even is.