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    Simplicity and convenience (lemmy.world)
    submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Thing is, I use Linux cuz it allows to have simplicity and convenience where those things are of value to me.

    Not having an online always connected local user account is simplicity to me.

    Having file permissions changeable with a simple command rather than having to fuck about a ui and registry is simplicity to me.

    Having an os that's under my control is convenient for me.

    Having a user interface that suits my wants/needs and has ample options for customization is convenient for me.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I like Linux, I hate the app names. It's confusing as hell, especially if you are looking for some app that functions the way you imagine, then they name something weird like Nautilus instead of file explorer lmao.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    For some reason people get all ways extra fabulous when they make open source Software and need a fancy name instead of a great descriptive one...

    Or they could name it atleast nautilus the file explorer or something.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    lol, thaat is so true. It's never just "File Explorer", is it?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    It doesn’t exactly help that there’s like 5-10 of each kind of thing.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    For me personally, having 5-10 of everything is good. I find what I like the best and you find what you like best. It can make extra work, but if you subtract out all the time I'd spend fighting the windows UI or looking at ads and "recommended content", I think we may actually come out on the better end of things.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    While it can be great for an end-user, it's a nightmare of tech support. It's just another reason why Linux will never be commonly used on PCs. It also leads to some applications missing critical features because there are three other programs like it, vying for the attention of programmers. For example, there are three applications for making it easier to run Windows applications on Linux - Lutris, PlayonLinux, and Bottles. Personally, I prefer Lutris, but it isn't always great about automatically installing dependencies, though it probably doesn't help that there are like a hundred Linux distributions.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I disagree that its a reason why linux will never be used commonly. Windows and macos both have the same issue and its never made things over complicated.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    I still remember thinking, "wtf is a nano and why should i sudo it?"

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I was a linux noob back in the day and was looking for a video converter or something but then the app is called handbrake lmao.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

    Don't worry guys, I know how to fix this. I'll just create another package manager!! That should do it

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No lie, it's got to the point that it's more convenient to use Linux. Windows has become very intrusive with trying to help, privacy issue landmines you have to navigate, it's not unpleasant to use Windows. It's just more work to do it.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

    The windows 11 settings menus are complete abominations, and the search function is about as much help as just screaming what you're looking for at the screen.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I think the big difference is that linux actually has tools and communities to help you fix your problem. It's just that linux's tools (and their communities) aren't always the most friendly

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    As a disclaimer, I didn't make this myself, and I lovingly use Linux for all my computing needs.

    But when I selfhost nextcloud to avoid google, or use proton, I am aware that I don't allways choose the easy way.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I am aware that I don’t allways choose the easy way.

    We don't do it because it's easy, we do it because we thought it would be easy.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I feel personally attacked.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Simplicity lol... Functionality lol... CONVINCE LMAO...

    Man the Unix on my Fridge is more convenient and simple than windoof, and it works unless there is a power outage!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I upvoted this meme, but to be fair, I often feel like it's more certain Linux developers that don't like (or understand) simplicity and convenience rather than the users. Users that migrate to more simple distros like Mint, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. generally get to have a pretty simple experience.

    I was on Linux Mint with Cinnamon for almost a year at one point because I was tired of Windows giving me problems, and was able to handle it because I wasn't really playing games during that time. Only had to leave because I got sick of trying to get my games to work through WINE because back then, it was actually difficult and not like nowadays with Proton and Steam Deck. I still got World of Warcraft working though, oddly enough.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I moved away from w10 to Ubuntu back when it still used Unity as it's DE. I found it delightfully simple to use and I loved that it was so different from windows, because I hated my experience with w10. It was clunky, unpolished and just a shitty experience in general. The only thing that I found difficult was when I tried to install VERY niche software by compiling it from the source code. The rest of it just worked out of the box. I didn't even have to use the terminal to install programs, I just used the GUI installer that came preinstalled.

    Now, I use debian. And that's a different story. I still don't have wifi or Bluetooth.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Things that are simple are often not simple to use. Things that are simple to use are often complex. Although, hammers also exist so it's not exactly an universal rule...

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    And hammers are also the best tool to deal with a Windows machine!

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

    This meme was made by not a real Linux user actually.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

    Apparently Windows users just want something that never works, is unsupportable, and required re-installation 3 times a year.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

    Meme creator has obviously never used Linux Mint.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    Once you set things up properly, linux is incredibly convenient. Installing something literally takes 5 seconds. Updating everything is a single command instead of manually checking the websites for every piece of software.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    I mean that's just not true.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The person who made this has never had to deal with Windows driver issues obviously

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    This feels like a comment from 1997. Aside from occasionally updating video drivers for a new video game, I can't remember the last time I had to maintain--much less fix--a driver.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Oh! Apparently I'm in 1997, then. Remarkable that they have Windows 11, then. I have a machine where the Microsoft provided drivers cause screen blanking when hardware accelerated video plays. Installing the AMD drivers fixes that, but I've yet to figure out what the magic sauce is to prevent Windows Update from overwriting part of the drivers that Adrenalin installs. One boot after installing and the machine works great, then the next boot it'll just be a black screen of death. At least AMD's installer helpfully makes a restore point.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    Sounds like my experience with Manjaro lol

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I second this. I’ve really only had to modify one driver in the seven years that I’ve been using Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    I second this. I’ve really only had to modify one driver in the seven years that I’ve been using Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    This comment feels like a absolute tech noob made it and doesn't actually use his windows pc...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

    My fav is when shit doesn't work and Windows is like "would you like me to help you?". Sure, go ahead, I've got nothing better to do. Maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket. Chances are better I'll win the jackpot.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    I love simplicity. This is why I use Linux. Its just simpler to get simple Software that does just one thing and that good.

    And I love tinkering with my os.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    Nowadays, knowing nothing of how windows works any more, I am always frustrated if I have to try to use it

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I disagre. But don't want to downvote.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    I disagree, and I will downvote.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

    I love simplicity and convenience. I just don't like giving up control.