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[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 203 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TikTok is Chinese spyware. Chrome is American spyware. Anyone in their right mind should stop using both.

[–] li10@lemmy.ml 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sometimes it’s nice to know that someone’s watching over me tho

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, my employer forces me to use Chrome or Edge. Ugh.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Tell them you can't as your active X scripts only run under IE6.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 134 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I hear this all the time. I have this conversation on the regular.

Them: "Oh you think Tik Tok is spyware?"

Me: "yes"

Them: "I'll have you know so is Google, Apple, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Microsoft, and all the big American companies too"

Me: "Yeah, that's why I don't use them"

Them: gasp "you're just paranoid bro are you a drug dealer or something?"

Me: "no, I just like my privacy. You probably wouldn't like it if some guy was following you keeping tabs about everything you do either."

Them: "well I've got nothing to hide"

Me: "maybe the next person in power might see your current and past beliefs illegal"

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 31 points 1 year ago

Them: "my favourite political party will stay in power forever"

The fact that you have nothing to hide doesn't imply I've to open up anything to anyone without my approval.

And that's the key here, we are not fully aware of the randomized distribution of your own data for profit.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just ask them if they have curtains or blinds on their windows at home. They have nothing to hide, right?

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[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Me: "do you close the bathroom door while shitting?"

Them: "yes"

Me: "why? You have nothing to hide"

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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Foreign spyware is stealing jobs from hardworking American spyware.

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[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s America spyware. I have standards. /s

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[–] dopeshark@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"But at least is LOCAL spyware 😎"

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 71 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Anyone who even compares a for profit corportation to the world's largest hostile militaristic dictatorship is an idiot. Both bad, but on completely different scales.

[–] squash_squash@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

US looks very militaristic to me. It has a very broken democracy, and a history of supporting/causing brutal dictatorships.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The control the Chinese gov has over tiktok is on a different scale compared to Google and the US

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The USA hasn't taken territory since 1946.

The major reason for the USA being so broken is due to deregulation and corporate greed. Which is a little different in nuance to Authoritarian China.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US doesn't try. It just bombs the fuck out of anyone worth exploiting production of anything any private exploitator willing to play "business" there wants.

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[–] PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Thank you, this is my viewpoint exactly. We are exploited by both but one is after money, the other is a threat.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The things the CCP could do with political blackmail gathered from tiktok would make even Zuck blush.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At the very least, Google and Facebook have to step back if caught. Meanwhile, Chinese companies often don't care about EU privacy laws. Still avoid them altogether, any way.

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[–] theFibonacciEffect@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

To be honest I think you can compare them, I feel the word idiot is misplaced here.

[–] paboppa@jlai.lu 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I doythink those are as different as you say. Through the Patriot Act, american corporate spying is US spying.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God when the whole Tiktok thing in Congress was going on nobody wanted to hear that their favorite big tech social media app was already selling information to China; had been caught doing so multiple times; and had never stopped despite promises and threats of prosecution the next time.

[–] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

WHAT information? What does China gain by learning that Sparky Douchebag watches BBQ and catgirl fapping videos? Are they planning their invasion based on the Heathers Challenge, or simply stealing our makeup tips?

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

Search the company Tencent.

Then look at how many shares they have on companies around the world.

And then think about it. What power does Google have? What power probably Tencent has.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Android phones looking nervously around.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least u can put custom firmware on android phones, try to get rid of Apple spyware is much harder.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You cannot put custom firmware. If spyware is hidden in drivers, bootloader or even firmware of the modem there is nothing we can do about it. Custom ROMs are just replacing things above the kernel and below apps.

Still of course things average non CIA person should not worry about. Google apps with high privileges are removed with custom ROMs.

[–] einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well at this point just get a pinphone64 with linux a d hardware switches

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] gencha@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Media platforms are beyond spying. You have nothing to offer.

It's all about controlling information and feeding you what you need to see.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Anyone using Firefox is a W to me.

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[–] Cano@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My brother in Christ I use Firefox

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jokes on you I don’t use either ^i ^use ^discord ^and ^windows ^instead

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still use discord, can't just leave gaming with my friends and I already look too much like a paranoid to convince them to switch to matrix or another FLOSS service

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There’s Revolt and TeamSpeak aswell. The latter is proprietary, but the audio quality is something to behold.

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[–] gnate@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chinease is an enzyme, but I don't know what it does.

[–] LostXOR@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It would be whataboutism if the argument would be one is okay because of the other. It isn't whataboutism if the argument is that both are unacceptable.

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you. I’m so sick of people equating whataboutism with pointing out hypocrisy. Do they want societal acceptance of hypocrisy? Or do they just like to use the new words they learned, like calling every jerk a narcissist?

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But what if I have another religion?

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[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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