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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Even if Trump is indicted in one of his legal battles, the polling suggests he could still defeat Biden."

He's already been indicted. 4 times.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Remember how Clinton's emails were a fiasco to some of these people?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His supporters absolutely do not care what Democrats call him, what legal issues he's involved in, etc. Democrats need to focus on policy and issues instead of solely attacking Trump. Democrats are not going to change Trump supporters minds. Stop trying to get a few Republicans to move over and start courting the actual Left.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't attempting to get anyone to change their mind. Simply pointing out the misstatement in the article.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I understood and was adding to it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Polls are polls, but just the fact that there is still any conversation at this point says a lot about the state of the country.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The media is absolutely owned by the wealthy and their sway over the common person is astounding.

From what I've seen (uneducated, informal, observation of recent smaller elections) it seems Republicans are losing ground with their crazy shit from school board seats to municipal/state elections - but this could easily be confirmation bias as I'm not really tracking repuglican scores.

It seems like regardless of what polls say, general America is fed up with the crazy and partially showing up to vote (or less R participating if they can't be assed to vote for a D) in less significant elections these days.

Hopefully it's a blowout democratic win this year and they can finally close the door on this Christian nationalist, Nazi, Gilead, bullshit across as many levels in for gov't as possible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

We've been engineered to have a short memory and an even shorter attention span. People who would vote for Republicans doubly so. All Republicans have to do is fly silent for a month or two and most transgressions and fouls will be forgiven. Whereas Democrats are still being held responsible for things they didn't do nearly 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really needs to be emphasized that polls this far out are basically meaningless. This far out, Romney was significantly outpolling Obama, and that was a blowout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

True, and it's also important to note that these are all polls of registered voters, not likely voters. This means they are much less reliable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was an article a while ago about Biden being up 10 in NY and everyone celebrating...

You have to go back to 1988 and Walter Mondale to see a Dem win NY by less than 15. Biden won by 23 last time.

He's not a good candidate, and if we're really stuck with him, he needs to pull his head out of his ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’ve seen it pointed out in others, and I’m seeing it here with you now, so I have to ask:

On a social media platform that clearly learns far left, you still manage to have an incredibly unpopular opinion. How is that even possible? Don’t think that maybe everyone has caught on to the fact that you are only critical of Biden’s administration and nothing else? Or could it be that everyone has caught on to your many alt accounts that seeming swarm one another to support your agenda?

Either way…

People caught on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

What's so bad about voicing an unpopular opinion?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

On a social media platform that clearly learns far left, you still manage to have an incredibly unpopular opinion.

that doesnt make it wrong

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what makes you think they have any alts?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

can you link to any proof of this? because i don't see any reason to believe that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nope. It’s private messages I’m not willing to share. Your choice to believe me or not. Don’t care either way.

I will say that I was recently accused of reporting an account of spreading misinformation by a different account that would/should have no idea about such a thing.

But again, form your own opinion. I’ve been told things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will say that I was recently accused of reporting an account of spreading misinformation by a different account that would/should have no idea about such a thing.

what does this have to do with this conversation? was it meant for someone else?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You know exactly what I’m saying. We’re done here.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It gets sadder and sadder the older I get to see the state of America. The fact that this man ever even had a chance to be president, let alone after everything that has happened during and since his presidency, for him to still be the most popular option. I hate this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I thought Bush elected for a 2nd term had to be the all time low. Trump winning once, and competing twice for a 2nd term, together with the general insanity Republicans have devolved to, while maintaining about half the populous support, makes it pretty hard to be an optimist about USA.
I know Russia has a hand in this, but turning Republicans to a Putin/Russia loving party, should not have been possible.
Trump is a traitor to ~~his country~~ USA, how the fuck can he achieve nomination even once?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

clickbait article, quoting the poll and the juiciest numbers they could dig out of them.

This survey was conducted online within the United States from February 21-22 among 2,022 registered voters by The Harris Poll and HarrisX

Well what the fuck does that mean, conducted online? On AOL? PornHub? Did you spam people to click a link for your website? Facebook? It was facebook wasn't it. They don't say. FFS was it Xitter? Unknown. Here's the actual poll, which the bullshit article doesn't even bother to link to.

There are SIXTY EIGHT questions. Okay, I want you to sit down and go to my facebook page and answer sixty eight questions. Who does that? I doubt anyone here. 2000 people is at least more than 1000 that they usually use to barf up a headline, but, again, that's 0.00014% of the registered voters.

Results were weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, education, political party, and political ideology where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population.

Well, what were those numbers? It doesn't say. Were they current, as in, 2022-or-more-recent breakdowns? Dunno. Could be from 2006? Maybe.

Garbage.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Hill has become complete fucking garbage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're reporting on a poll. How is that trash?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only poll that matters is the one everyone votes on.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Did you hear that Republicans? You guys got this election in the bag. Don't bother going out to vote because you are guaranteed to win. All these polls keep coming out that Trump is in the lead so just let democracy do it's thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The actual poll:

https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HHP_Feb2024_KeyResults.pdf

It’s worth nothing that voters were also asked about 3rd party candidates, and Kennedy got a big chunk of the votes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Bad propaganda it's still propaganda..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

We polled 75% Trump supporters and our poll shows Trump with a 6 point lead...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

You can make a poll say whatever you want if you have no interest in the truth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


And if he’s convicted of crimes related to his handling of classified presidential documents, voters are split 50-50 on who to vote for.

Trump has long framed his courtroom battles as political attacks, and the messaging appears to be resonating with voters as he continues to lead the Republican presidential field.

Nearly 6 in 10 voters in the poll said they think Democrats are engaged in “lawfare,” or “using the government and legal system in biased ways to take out a political opponent.”

The same percentage said they thought Trump’s legal cases make it impossible for him to be a viable candidate.

Voters were split 50-50 on whether the former president has committed crimes for which he’ll be convicted — as well as on whether Trump is a “threat to democracy” if he wins a second term in the Oval Office.

It is a collaboration of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard University and the Harris Poll.


The original article contains 377 words, the summary contains 159 words. Saved 58%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A Harvard CAPS-Harris poll

Mark Penn's fake poll.