CraigOhMyEggo

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The question of people acting out of character has fascinated me recently because I've been noticing a lot of celebrities (regular celebrities, sports celebrities, political celebrities, etc.) say and do things that would either seem are completely unlike them or should be unlike them, and I'm starting to question the assumption I've always had that this is an abnormal phenomenon.

From Arthur Miller (the author of The Crucible) encouraging witch hunts to the Daily Stoic throwing around premature psychological condemnations (quite unstoically), it's like I can't watch something without hearing about someone doing something unheard of (for that person) every few days. I am an avid football fan and they're known for being very passionate about left-leaning politics (not judging). A few nights ago, a few of them got a touchdown and randomly started celebrating with the "Trump dance" (yes, Trump has a trademarked dance now, like the Fortnite dance, also not judging that either). Sometimes I see this in regular people too. My old uni teacher for example is very lenient and otherwise never issues punishments to classmates that last more than a few days, but a week ago someone accidentally dropped a book on someone's lunch and she kicked him out of the class entirely. It was like watching that one Simpsons scene at the bar.

Do you see any moments like these from time to time? What's the most severe example of someone you know momentarily acting out of character?

 

The question of people acting out of character has fascinated me recently because I've been noticing a lot of celebrities (regular celebrities, sports celebrities, political celebrities, etc.) say and do things that would either seem are completely unlike them or should be unlike them, and I'm starting to question the assumption I've always had that this is an abnormal phenomenon.

From Arthur Miller (the author of The Crucible) encouraging witch hunts to the Daily Stoic throwing around premature psychological condemnations (quite unstoically), it's like I can't watch something without hearing about someone doing something unheard of (for that person) every few days. I am an avid football fan and they're known for being very passionate about left-leaning politics (not judging). A few nights ago, a few of them got a touchdown and randomly started celebrating with the "Trump dance" (yes, Trump has a trademarked dance now, like the Fortnite dance, also not judging that either). Sometimes I see this in regular people too. My old uni teacher for example is very lenient and otherwise never issues punishments to classmates that last more than a few days, but a week ago someone accidentally dropped a book on someone's lunch and she kicked him out of the class entirely. It was like watching that one Simpsons scene at the bar.

Do you see any moments like these from time to time? What's the most severe example of someone you know momentarily acting out of character?

 

Here is what I mean by this. Out of all the times I've been to a doctor, been visited by a cop, called the cops, been to court, went to school, and so on, I've realized lately that I haven't had a single good experience with any of them.

Doctors either always tell me nothing is wrong when something is wrong or said something was wrong when something wasn't. Got traumatic brain injury? Oh it's just a bonk on the head. Got blue balls? Bring em in, doc needs money. The presence of doctors here is so inconsistent with recovery from things like illnesses that the place resembles the stereotypical Sparta-obsessed fascist nation where hospitals don't exist by design.

Police and courts will give you no luck at all stemming from having absolutely no consistency with how they deal with things whatsoever. I've seen child abuse cases where babies are left with behavioral issues that mirror those child rehoming documentaries and the abuser gets two months, while also seeing small cases of assault that lead to two years. I've had instances where I ask police about something they can do. "We'll look into it" they say. Nothing happens. The next thing that happens, they're blaming me for a dead tree from my yard with a branch that snapped off and fell on a neighbor's fence, and I go to get sentenced.

My teachers were like these examples too. Did I benefit even once from my teachers? No. Did I benefit from the social environment? No. Did they treat me like Mr. Burns treats Homer? All the time. They didn't see me as a person, they saw me as a goal. And they would never mind cheating their own rules to achieve it.

And the moment they don't think they have a job to do regarding you, the same jobs they half-ass anyways, they treat you less like an individual to remember and from time to time treat as an equal human and more like a bird you pushed out of a nest without intent to hear from them again. And I didn't realize this until recently, that I have no positive experiences with public servants. Makes me almost not want to work.

Anyone else?

 

Perfectionists tend to wonder this, now I'm asking.

 

Consider this installment three of my previous question which is the second installment. For Election Day, I was researching the history of voting which has taken many forms. At one time in history, people voted by dropping rocks in holes corresponding to their candidate, with the one with most rocks being the candidate who won. We've had many forms "of voting", from rocks in a well to paper ballots to voting machines to whatever this anime concept with glowy lights is. Each method has had supporters and critics, for example critics of voting machines will say it can be rigged, critics of paper ballots will say papers can be mismanaged, and critics of counting yard flags as a method will say it's too tedious to do it all.

Suppose we discovered dolphins could understand democracy. So here you are coming up with a way to "express a vote". Underwater, paper shrivels, tech may short-circuit, it's hard to dig a hole with classic equipment, etc. unless you have a way to make something work. How would you teach dolphins to manifest voting in a non-rigged yet massively usable way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

pleainly

You prove my point. There's a difference between ways of communicating that go against the rules of language and ways of communicating that simply, to some people, seem to overuse it. My original message had no typos.

There's nothing stopping a sound mind that wants to understand it from understanding it. Or this sound mind could also, in theory, ask for a paraphrasing, and maybe the asker would have the courtesy to elaborate in some way.

Treating someone as having committed an offense worse than using slurs, just due to the way they explained something in the style of normal speech and language rules, is at least two levels of escalation above that and unprovoked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Wait, it does? I was always taught it had the fertility of a three thousand kilometer savannah.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

If what I say correctly abides by the rules of language, then the only issues with what I write would thus be technical.

I'm going to pull a quote out of [email protected]'s playbook and say if you insist standards for how people present themselves should be so high, a community of people exchanging questions and answers, especially ones with high concentrations of socialists, isn't for you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Why is everyone complaining these days that they had to run something by ChatGPT for clarification as if the very fact ChatGPT understands a question doesn't itself imply there's nothing linguistically wrong with how it was asked?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

What was it you said?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Was going to answer this earlier but I thought maybe someone else might before I did.

Yes, you're on the right track, give or take a little nuance. On Reddit, this would get someone banned in a heartbeat, which is arguably not entirely out of left field.

To explain it in summarized terms, basically there's an admin of the ML instance and a community mod (the mod is from the community [email protected]).

The mod and the admin happened to meet up on a post about LGBTQ+ rights, the mod herself being on the asexual spectrum. The mod brought up (because she thought it was relevant, as a third party member I guess) that the American Democrat Party often appeals to groups (such as Islam, even not minding their extreme side) who have a history of not seeing eye to eye with the LGBTQ+.

The admin, who is known for being very articulate but reached a new low I've ever seen with this incident, tried getting his opinion in to no avail before removing half of her (the mod's) replies there, banning her from a bunch of random communities to get a point across, effectively made her leave the instance, exposed private information of hers out of spite if that wasn't enough, and then backlashed on Reddit when someone called him out on it.

Reading between the lines makes me think of the encounters I've had with Islamic extremists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Was going to answer this earlier but I thought maybe someone else might before I did.

To explain it in summarized terms, basically there's an admin (of the instance I'm in) and a community mod (the mod is from the community [email protected]).

The mod and the admin happened to meet up on a post about LGBT rights. The mod brought up (because she thought it was relevant) that the American Democrat Party often appeals to entities (such as Islam) who have a history of not seeing eye to eye with the LGBT.

The admin, who is known for being fiery but met an all-time low with this incident, tried getting his two cents in, to no avail, before removing half of her (the mod's) replies there, banning her from a bunch of random communities to get a point across, scared her out of the instance, exposed private information of hers out of spite, and then backlashed on Reddit when someone called him out on it.

The response of mine above includes my suggestion that not doing anything might as well amount to other instances being victim to manipulation.

Considering the presidential debate just happened in the US, it brings to mind election extremism as a means of propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Cool-headed? What was going on I wonder with the modlogs inferring he spammed the ban hammer against her in four different communities (three would be unrelated) before the initiation of official instance action (all with the default reason cited, like he wanted to drive the statement of a grudge home)? The only thing she was elaborating on was how counter-intuitive it is American Democrats split their sympathies between the LGBT and the complete creed of Islam (hence the part in the OP about the LGBT, of note is the fact her asexuality is alluded to in conversation almost each time corresponding to something like this happening). Honestly sounds like a particularly agenda-based sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Many weren't public until he said anything and are connected to other personal info.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I can recover.

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