ILoveUnions

"someone else do it please" is not the mentality to have if you actually want revolution.

It's easy to just blame the government. When the reality is there is an entire complicit class of voters voting them in

I'm asking you why would you think that is not already integrated in my way, since I think it is implied by what I explained.

Your way is assuming they will question the things with your push statements. What I'm saying is they believe they have solid foundation, and their alternative facts account for most pushes. They'll bring up reasons. They'll say "facts"(obviously not real ones, but they have them). They'll feel they're knowledge. Those things cause them to effectively counter soft pushes, in my opinion.

I think this could work, but it limits the number of opportunities quite a lot. I see no reason to not try both.

Fair enough that there's not really a good reason to try both. I feel like a key to it is not being condescending, ehich soft pushes ring as to me.

My method has limited opportunities, but since I primarily utilize it at work, I'm meeting this people frequently

Why would you think it's without knowing they got intoxicated by fake news?

I really can't make heads or tails of this sentence.

That's the point, you think they have wrong ideas, so you push them gently to increase the chance that they will question them by themselves.

I don't disagree with gentle pushing. I'm saying what your idea is not going to push them at all, nor will it be taken as gentle. Honestly, it makes me wonder if you've actually interacted with these sorts.

The best approach that I've found is to beat them to the punch of saying things. Basically, make points before they can say stipid shit, they're very easily manipulated if they haven't already taken a stance in the conversation

Also going into the points they aren't as sure on, proving them wrong, has given me a great basis of getting them to admit they're wrong. It's all in tone of voice. Not being a dick about it.

No. That's a poor way to do it. They have very clear ideas on why things are like they are, and for the basis of their racism.. they're wrong ideas, but they're extremely clear. Arguing without the understanding that they have alternatives facts is wrong

They just bring up information as fact that they've put no research into demonstrating.

I know people like this. They're "nic". But what that means is they put everyone they know into "one of the good ones" box. So they're polite to all people they know, basically... It's interesting and horrifying to see tbh

Except, there'd still be issues, because addiction creates issues. A society where drugs are allowed is not one free from issues. They'll still ruin lives. They'll still destroy families, and hurt children. Education helps, but it does not eliminate the problem

A standard issue laptop would be around 500 for mid range. Maybe prices have changed recently idk

Related to crimes, they kinda really can

You are dull. Very dull. There is no shortage of ways to pirate content on the internet, including torrents. And they wasted no time doing so

And what of the massive amount of content paywalled that ai still used to train?