JesseoftheNorth

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing riles up Americans more than being told “no”. I owe you nothing. I was simply pointing out that a member of a country/culture that violently subjugated another country/culture doesn’t morally or ethically get to decide that what they do or say is or isn’t offensive to the country/culture that they violently subjugated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well now I’m saying you can’t be offended by what I said. You have to agree with me, because freedom of speech or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I agree that it isn’t that simple, and as I said in another comment here, people of a specific culture will have differing opinions and feelings on the matter. That doesn’t mean that non-Hawaiians get to decide what is offensive to Hawaiians, and that is what I am addressing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a difference. OP is asking if indigenous Hawaiians would find it offensive. You have been stating that it isn’t as a matter of fact, even though it’s not for you decide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Again, I ask you, what do you think gives you the right to decide?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who is “they”? Just because the state tourism bureau does it, doesn’t mean it necessarily represents the will or wishes of indigenous Hawaiians.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Then you have no right to speak for them or decide what is or isn’t offensive to them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some indigenous Hawaiians would find it offensive and some wouldn’t. Hawaiians are not some homogeneous entity sharing the same thoughts and sensibilities. That being said, it sounds like the event centres around cultural stereotypes, which are romanticized from a western point of view, from a specific point in time, and in that sense I would find it in poor taste, but I am not Hawaiian. In my opinion, these sorts of things marginalize cultures more than they “celebrate” them. I would encourage you to try to educate your daughter on the history of colonialism in Hawaii, as that won’t be covered in class in any detail, I’d wager.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Are you indigenous?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Canadians are racist AF towards indigenous folk. They fucking hate us, and take every opportunity to make our lives worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

"U less you’re actively being harassed or attacked, it doesn’t matter."

That is literally the point though. Homophobes and transphobes are literally physically attacking, murdering, harassing, and legislating the rights away from 2SLGBTQ+ people. Either you are being willfully ignorant, or you're on the side of those doing the oppressing. There is no both sides to this. To be clear, you are on the side of the oppressors if you believe this.

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