LilB0kChoy

I wouldn’t consider this a common product in the United States but I wouldn’t say it would be out of place either.

Peanut butter is most common, and Nutella became really prominent in recent history in the US but we also have cookie butter, marshmallow fluff, Cookies and cream spreads and S’mores spreads.

It was Andrew Johnson who reversed Special Field Orders No. 15. The man who became president upon Lincoln’s death and was from North Carolina, so not exactly a northerner. He also holds the distinction of being one of only 3 US presidents who has been impeached.

Has it been swept aside?

Hmm, if farmers had actually listened to any educated people

This really comes across like you think farmers are not educated people. Benefit of the doubt that this is not what you intended but you may want to re-write this.

Dude there are so many better ways to attack Musk than risking terrible optics/precedent to close five Tesla dealerships.

Flimsy attempts to shut down a few dealerships that will have little to no impact on his life does nothing to solve the above.

You feel the need to keep making statements like “my desire to see the same exact result they’re going for here” yet the above quotes are yours. Who are you trying to convince?

You try and accuse me of personal attacks then do the same I have no mental image of you, I’m only responding to the nonsense you’ve been putting out.

Capitulating to fascists usually isn’t productive.

You’re conflating ethics and legal issues.

No, I'm not. The article is about state lawmakers. Senators. The same people who gave Tesla a special exemption to sell directly to consumers rather than going through third party dealerships. If the bill passes and the Governor signs it then it becomes law. They gave Tesla a waiver, they can take it away.

That is not tolerance of Musk and insisting I am tolerant of him won’t make it true. I am not.

I at no point insisted you were tolerant of Musk and if that was your takeaway then I'd suggest re-reading my comment or work on your reading comprehension. I stated that you seem to be stuck in the paradox of tolerance, it seems like you expect the state of New York to meet Musk, and more specifically Tesla, with tolerance to their intolerance.

I know what that is and it’s not relevant.

I disagree and think that it is. By explicitly stating that they are targeting Tesla within New York because of Elon Musk and his connection to the company there is a statement being made that they will no longer tolerate that behavior and the attempts to harm the country and the democracy by Elon Musk and that they will defend against his intolerance with whatever means they can.

When you've tried to use reason, when you've tried to work within the systems that are in place to deal with a bully and those systems have failed you and the bully is refusing to listen to reason then you reach a point where you just have to punch them in the nose.

Yes, that's what the paradox of intolerance is all about.

I think you’re trapped by the Paradox of tolerance.

The Fifth and Fourteenth amendments of the United States Constitution are the ones that contain the due process clauses. That little bit that says no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law."

The fact that you cherry picked the Constitutional part but cut the bit about ICE being in violation of the courts and the laws is kind of telling. They all go hand in hand.

I’m not sure why you’re arguing in bad faith but I won’t engage with you further and I’d encourage anyone else do the same.

You're literally arguing that we should separate child and mother

I think the point you’re missing from the judge and by most people who are outraged by what’s been going on with the recent actions taken by ICE is the lack of due process and illegal removal of non-citizens.

If the current administration and ICE weren’t in direct violation of the Constitution, the courts and the laws of the US then this situation doesn’t occur.