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Girl is getting paid to help them for sure.

We certainly do, but you wouldn't catch me voting for that Russian stooge after everything that went down in 2016.

Before 2016 I was definitely in the camp of looking at both major parties as well as any third parties. I was voting for who I thought was the best despite whatever party they were in.

However, 2016 really opened my eyes to what the Republican party is. They are a party that isn't allowed to have different ideas. You follow the party line and do what you are told or you will be kicked out. Even republicans I thought might have cared for this country would have taken a stance but they didn't. They tucked their tails and bent the knee.

I will never ever vote for a Republican. I can see clear as day what they are now and it isn't good. They aren't able to hide who they are anymore.

You can have debates in the Republican party. You can in the democratic party. Which unfortunately makes the Dems a weaker party because it isn't a cult you are allowed to have a different opinion. The democratic party is basically all the sane adults that are left. It's not just the "left" anymore it's those in the center or those who didn't go far right with the Republicans. The Dems will spend the next year attacking each other and fighting within the party because they aren't unified and told what to think by one leader. So not all Dems will turn out.

It seems voter like to dismiss everything the democratic party does if they don't line up with them completely on every issue. The voters find one reason to vote for Republicans and ignore the rest of party line.

This person is just pissed the Jill Stein push isn't working as well here as it did in 2016 on Reddit. We aren't voting green we have a fucking democracy to save.

It is all over everything right now. It's giving me PTSD from 2016. Are we voting Jill Stein again?

I get that it is honestly hard to read stuff you just don't connect with or find interesting on some level. I absolutely loved the odyssey and huck finn. I can completely understand people not getting on board with Shakespeare especially when you're younger.

I've definitely gone back in red some of the really popular books back when I was in high school because I can appreciate them more now. However, I still read a ton of fantasy novels and stuff like that which I find more interesting then most things I read back then.

I do have hope because it's hard to live without it. I'm probably a little jaded because I live in a predominantly red area. I'll just keep voting and doing my best to get others to vote as well. Also planning on going to some school board meetings soon if it works with my schedule.

Yes I have offspring

I hope people remember what it was like and what was done under that president and what that party has done lately. I worry people have either stop paying attention or have grown apathetic. That's what will lead to trump again because we have to come out in large numbers to counteract all the Tom foolery they're going to be up to.

I hope you are right and this time we can get a least some justice for all the damage and crimes he has done.

I still do that myself I'll read a whole page and then realize I have zoned out the entire time and remember nothing. Usually that happens when I'm not as invested in the material. I'm current reading the wheel of times series and am enjoying it. However it has it's boring or just overly detailed areas that I find myself zoning out more in.

I'm not throwing in the towel I'm just looking at the facts of what happens to rich white men in this country. He has found a way out of everything. People have been saying he's goong to prison since 2016. They don't call him Teflon don for nothing. I hope to see him pay for his crimes but I think it's more likely he cheats to become president again and then it will all just go away. He also has the backing of the supreme Court and the Dems have a really hard time holding seats in Congress because we aren't playing a fair game.

Oh I am far from apathetic. I am fucking pissed off and nothing will stop me from getting to the voting booth along with my SO. However, I am not optimistic for the USA or the world at this point. I hope I am wrong but as far as I can tell we are headed in the wrong direction all over the globe. Millions and millions of people are turning towards authoritarian governments. You have a very very loud minority in our country that wants to install a christofascist government and Im pretty sure they aren't going anywhere and will do anything for power.

You are correct I was mostly adding that because that aids in their ability to steal power away from the majority. I guess I could have just said cheating as that is a good blanket term for what they do.