OldWoodFrame

If Vermont Independents were killing civilians and he stayed in the group I would denounce Bernie Sanders yes. I am not denouncing the entire country of Yemen.

You don't get to pick conflict-by-conflict. "Going down in history as heroes" is about the totality of human action.

And you feel the same about their attacks on Yemeni civilians? Also heroic?

Market cap of Twitter was $41B, Musk overpaid at $44B,

Fidelity valued it at $9.4B late last year.

xAI paid $33B for it this year.

So this is a significantly worse overpay.

Everybody congratulate the Houthis for singlehandedly stopping Israel's attacks.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We all agree that they are doing their trading vessel attacks because they are against Israeli war crimes. Sure that is undeniable, but that's not what is at question. The Houthis do a lot of other stuff, inclusive of their own war crimes. So they're not good guys, they're not heroes, they're not a single issue group that only exists to stop Israel.

They're also not stopping the genocide.

The Houthis have been committing war crimes for years before Oct 7th. They're not some freedom fighter group that popped up in 2023 only doing bad things to serve their greater goal of stopping Israeli genocide.

That's my entire point, they're not heroes just because you agree with their stance on Israel. I hope you don't agree with their stance on torture and child murder. You are against indiscriminate bombings of civilians when Israel does it, surely you're opposed to it when the Houthis do it.

Two organizations who disagree with each other can both be bad.

They are not stopping a genocide.

Entirely ignoring the point.

Perhaps shockingly to you, being against genocide doesn't make you a hero. Jeffrey Dahmer was presumably against the Holocaust. He's not going down in history as a hero.

Republicans put national secrets at risk while bombing Yemen.

You: The important thing to say about this is that Democrats support genocide.

I was almost with you on this one. Just because they're against the guys you don't like doesn't make them heroes.

Reagan was a lot of things but he sure wasn't a Russian asset.

Can't tell if the way small minded bigots stay away from the best parts of every country is a fun coincidence or causal.

Sure, so they don't have power right now. Republicans control both houses of Congress and the presidency. Blame the voters who wanted this scenario if you don't like it.

Schumer is playing the long game trying to get power back at the midterms.