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A better analogy would be handing magazines to a mass shooter whenever he ran out of ammo

what they then choose to do with it is on them, not us.

Why do you believe this? Don't people have a responsibility to not give weapons to people knowing they will be used for genocide?

Also, us? Are you part of the Biden admin?

Yeah didn't he call for the creation of "greater israel" in the region or something?

What do you call giving weapons with the knowledge that they will be used for genocide?

Does the recipient obviously lying "oh they'll just be used for defense" while they continue to commit genocide with previous shipments of weapons give the democrats plausible deniability in your book?

Bad faith actors are out here trying to channel energy into a psuedo-democracy instead of participating in bottom up politics.

If you care about stopping fascism, join a socialist org. Donald Trump isn't some anomaly, he is a result of systemic economic forces that bring imperialist violence back to our shores as global resistance makes our imperial influence overseas wane. Democrats (the people who control the democratic party, not like, voters) do not want to bring an end to the system that creates this phenomenon, they directly profit from it.

You can't base your opposition to fascism by voting for a party that supports the conditions that are creating fascism. I dont care who you vote for, go hog wild, but join a socialist org if you care about stopping fascism in the long term.

There are literally the same sects represented in the delegations, lmao, the groups were religiously diverse.

Do you even know what sects of Islam they follow? Quick, name them.

Oh wait, youre just making stuff up as you go along. There are uyghurs in both major sects and the delegation included both major sects of Islam.

Okay, thank you for demonstrating that you unironically believe muslim countries are more bigoted against Muslims than a country which has routinely committed genocide against muslim populations over the last half century and is current involved in supporting one as we speak.

Oh my god, the police files that included ai generated mugshots, published by Adrian Zenz, a literal German fascist who says God has given him a mission to destroy China?

Also just take a look at historical basis, genocide has happened many times throughout history. Do you assume genocide has never “worked” and only creates more resistance?

Genocide creates more violent resistance when it is escalating, even if it eventually wipes out most of a population. Can you name an example of a time when this doesn't hold true?

The same applies to you? Why do you have faith in chinese affiliated media, who has a vested interest in usurping US footholds and making deals with chinese markets?

Why do you think I primarily rely on Chinese media? I primarily rely on looking at US media through a critical lense oriented around Marxism and anti-colonial theory. I also talk to Chinese exchange students about their experiences in China.

Dont act like china doesnt have a history of repression like every other major world power. China isnt special, or new.

I'm not arguing that, but that is not an equivalent claim to the claim you are making. You are making much worse claims.

They arent your friend, theyre the next US.

Nah this is just enlightened centrism. China is of course a state and states do repression but they are significantly less economically exploitative than the US. They are also exceeding their climate goals while the US lags behind.

They dont care that some historians say it doesnt work, the same argument applies to the japanese concentration camps in the US during WW2.

They aren't doing concentration camps though, because if they were, we would see violent resistance increasing. This has always historically been the case. You must learn from history or you'll believe anything.

Its embarassing to watch you, in the same paragraph, try and mock trusting 1 faceless monoliths propaganda while unquestionably parroting anothers.

I'm not parroting their propaganda. Their propaganda paints a much rosier picture about it. Things are not great but the way they have dealt with extremism has respected their culture, even though there are cases of nonsystemic abuse and their methods toe the line on what we would consider acceptable standards of evidence. (Although detaining someone in school is different than detaining someone in a labor camp like the US does to its prisoners, and the standard of evidence that the US uses also often falls behind our acceptable standard of evidence)

Did you actually read the report? They literally cite CIA front groups like VoCMF.

Also, just look at it from a historical basis. Has any anti-terrorism program that revolved around repression ever worked, and not just created more terrorism? Does China have a reality altering device that lets them do repression without creating more terrorism, or have you been lied to, given that terrorism has precipitously declined as China has invested in their counterterrorism program primarily based around improving the material conditions in the region?

You think Muslim majority countries care less about the right to practice Islam than the US, which routinely spies on mosques in the US and has killed millions of Muslim civilians in recent history? Who are supportive of the client state of Israel committing genocide against Palestinians as we speak? Which media depicts Muslims as brown savages? Who's soldiers commonly refer to Muslims as Sand N-words?

Are you being literal or is their another meaning you are trying to imply?