ThatOneKrazyKaptain

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'll let you cope if you make a meme for me What they Wanted: Barack Obama with a lil bowtie and Joe Biden waving a Minnesota flag(new version) What they got: Hillary Clinton with a sunglasses tint effect to make her look darker and John Kerry with 3 purple hearts waving a Minnesota flag(old version)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Meme Request: What they wanted: Obama with a little pink bowtie and Biden holding waving a little Minnesota flag. What they got: Hillary Clinton with a tint filter over her and Kerry waving a little Minnesota flag

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

~~we cannot keep selling shows to Fox~~

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean there wasn't enough of them to flip the swing states. Also somehow I doubt that all the RFK Jr and Chase Oliver and Randell Terry and Peter Sonski voters would have gone for Harriss

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Except for McCain, Bob Dole, Bush Senior the second time around, and Barry Goldwater

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, no, a Landslide is historically defined as 400 EVs and that hasn't happened in a while, not even Obama quite got there.

But it is the biggest victory a Republican has had since 1988. I don't get all the hemming and hawing about mandates and plurality of PV vs majority of PV and stuff. This was a bigger win for the Republicans then 2000, 2004, and 2016. 2004 is the only one that's even debatable. Harris lost harder than any democrat since Micheal Dukakis. And while a lot of that is people who only show up for Trump and thus it's possible 2028 is a democrat wave, there's also a lot of people specifically turned off by Trump who might not mind the far younger Vance(who had the biggest glowup this year of the 4 people on the tickets, he went from bottom in popularity to comparable to Walz, meanwhile Trump and Walz stagnated and Harris surged and then un-surged)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

While they benefited from it later at this point Virginia was a population powerhouse, the actual states pushing for this were the small New England states, I think some of them only gave up their giant western claims(google 'long connecticut') in exchange for it.

It was also a compromise. Proto-Federalists wanted a direct democracy determined by population, Proto-Democratic-Republicans wanted each state to get one vote. In the end they split the difference, House was determined by population, Senate by states, and the president by a hybrid system that didn't fully give either what they wanted.

If you went back in time to stop the electoral college you could just as easily get a 'One vote per state for president, 26 votes wins' system instead of a direct democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Uh...Hawaii? West Virginia? Rhode Island?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

64ish is literally the third highest since 1900, only behind 1960(similar range) and 2020(65ish). It was 54% in 2000. This stuff tends to eb and flow. There was a steady decline from 1960 until 2000 and it's been rising since. 1920-1960 was steady growth, 1870s to 1920s was a decline. Prior to that it was growth more or less since the start

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Also voters died. Old age, COVID, random accidents

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

63 and a half percent. Third highest since 1900, only behind 2020(65.8%) and 1960(high 64s to low 65s depending on source). For context, 2008 was 61.6, 2016 was 59.2, and 2000 was 54.3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The VEP is the third highest since 1900, only behind 2020 and 1960. This is an extremely high turnout election

 
 
 

(Doesn't translate as directly as you'd think)

 

For example, the 2016, 2020, and the pseudo- 2024 Democrat Primaries have shared a significant crowd. People have come and gone(Bernie gave up in 2024. Biden didn't stick in 2016 long due to family issues), but for the most part you'll see the same people. Or the Republicans from 2008-2012, mostly the same guys. Heck, Hillary and Biden, the future nominees, both did really well in 2008, coming second and 3rd(ish) overall. Al Gore had tried prior to Bill getting in. Even way way back you had guys like Henry Clay trying and trying and trying.

But then you compare something like 2012 Republican Primaries to the 2016 Republican Primaries. None of the big names return, no Mitt Romney, no McCain, no Newt Gingrinch, no Rick Sanctorum, no Ron Paul, no Fred Karger. The ONLY returnee at all out of like 15-20 serious contenders was Rick Perry, who was a minor nominee that dropped out early both times. The big 5 or big 6 or even big 7 were completely different.

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