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Sorry I deleted my post, I don't mean to leave it like that where it looks like your talking to yourself. I don't think dems are uniquely of the left, I just think there are rising left wing factions in the Democratic party and I don't think the situation is as hopeless as people think it is as a binary choice between center-right and the right wing. And I really don't think Europe is really much better off in this regard.

We have it worse because we are a hegemon. Most countries don't have to take a stance on imperalism because they lack the resources to actually engage in it and outsource it to us.

Overall, my point is to show that the Democrats are not a monolith and have internal factions, and on a number of issues, we are more left than other issues on the planet. If the main thing you care about is foreign affairs, you are always going to be disappointed, hell, I am. The Deep State is in charge of that and it's basically outside of the political system.

It seems to me that Europe is largely dominated by a largely center right consensus.

No I don't. I was never talking about whether US involvement in WW2 was justified or not?

It's uh, from the link I was replying to. By start, it really means choose to engage in. I don't think the US started WW2 but a democrat is who got us involved in it.

Well I would be happy to hear your alternative. I'm ideology shopping right now actually. But personally, I think the interests of capital should be represented in any system and that doesn't make it not democratic for me.

I would say it's a bit of both depending on the context.

Please explain your alternative to liberal democracy that "pushes the hole-drillers overboard". I'm happy to hear how it's different from fascism. This is the price we pay for living for living in a liberal democracy that allows dissent.

All modern political parties in liberal democracies are fine with state violence on college protestors. It's kind of the nature of having a state that exercises police power. There is no one arguing against that.

It's more like Trump and Bush bomb people but they keep it a secret. Obama moved the drone program out of the CIAs purview and that is part of the reason that we now know how large the extent of its operation is.

I think you should engage in better political analysis than saying that Republicans start more wars because Democrats are the ones who started WW2 and The Mexican-American war. I just don't really see the value in that. You should instead argue that modern wars, while usually started by Republicans, tended to have large political consensus on both the Democratic and Republican sides.