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[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

For a long time, all the inky caps were in Coprinus. Then genetic testing revealed that Shaggy Mane inky caps (Coprinus Comatus and similar big shaggy meaty inky caps) aren't related to the others, they just evolved the ability to turn to ink independently to take advantage of whatever ecological niche turning to ink gets you (mycologists aren't really sure). Coprinus is in the Agaricus family (portabellos) while all the others are in the Psathyrella family (small mushrooms with thin brittle stems that no one really pays attention to).

So the big shaggy inkys got to keep Coprinus and the rest got new genera under Psathyrellaceae, one of which is Parasola.

As for the question of edibility, Parasola are likely not toxic but they're too small for anyone to really consider eating.

The most commonly eaten ex-Coprinus are the Coprinopsis Atramentaria complex which are the ones that make you sick if you have alcohol within a couple days or so of eating them. The real Coprinus don't react with alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

It's possible but the ones where we can see the underside appear to be deliquescing to ink which is what makes me think Coprinopsis Lagopus group is more likely. It's difficult to tell for sure without a closeup.

I actually just posted some Parasola this morning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

The volvariela/volvopluteus species in the top right are marked as "M" (deadly) but they're actually choice edibles. Volvariella volvacea the Straw Paddy Mushroom is cultivated and sold widely in Asia.

I suspect they're marked wrong here due to a combination of Western European mycophobia and the fact that they're easily confused for deadly Amanitas by beginners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I know mushrooms really well but I actually really struggle with trees which is unfortunate given how often you need to look for specific trees to find certain mushrooms.

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Genus Parasola doesn't really deliquesce to ink like the other inkys but they're very similar otherwise so they're usually considered inky caps anyway.

Here are the same Parasola two days after the first photo, as you can see they just sort of shrivel and tatter.

I can't say for sure which species of Parasola these are because species within this genus tend to be difficult/impossible to differentiate. Even just within the Pacific Northwest this genus contains many cryptic genetic species which don't even have names yet, much less reliable descriptions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's difficult to tell the difference within a section such as between alcohol inkys C. Atramentaria and C. Striata (slightly pointier).

But the C. Lagopus group is pretty different, they're less than half the size, they're covered in white hairs when they're young, and they have flesh so thin that it turns inside out and transparent as the inside starts to turn to ink like you can see in OPs photo.

Compare to this photo from Wikipedia shows how C. Atramentaria looks when it's turning to ink (or deliquescing if you're fancy).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

OP's mushrooms actually aren't the same section as the alcohol inkys you had. Nobody really eats the rabbit foot inkys because they're smaller and have basically no flesh but they don't react with alcohol the same way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These look like Coprinopsis section Lanatule "Rabbit foot inky caps". They're called that because they're covered in white fuzz when they first pop up.

This one I found has about half the fuzz worn off but it's enough to get the picture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's a chocolate-flavored sandwich-cookie, not a cookie version of a chocolate sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh cool, you're close enough to me (Washington) that I can use my local resources to get closer.

Look into Lactarius cascadensis and Lactarius cordovaensis (they may be the same thing).

Paraphrased from Danny Miller https://www.alpental.com/psms/ddd/Lactarius/index.htm

a lilac grey/cinnamon cap that is zoned. It is large, with gills the colour of the cap and a mild taste found under alder. It has watery-white latex that stains tissues pink/purple and a scrobiculate stem.

Those are supposed to be pretty rare, if you've still got it, consider drying it and seeing if anyone from a local mycology club is interested in studying it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

You're missing a very important detail: what part of the world did you find this in?

It seems like it's something like L. repraesentaneus though the KOH reaction on the cap should have been red. 15-20 minutes should be more than enough time for a KOH reaction but if you waited too long between picking the mushroom and putting the KOH on the cap you may have gotten a false negative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Wikipedia honestly kind of sucks for mushroom information, the information is very general and they only cover a handful of species.

Region-specific resources are the best but I don't really know any for your region so I'll recommend MushroomExpert.com which is a good site for general North American mushroom info. Here's the page on inkys you may want to check out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

So, these mushrooms aren't really what I would describe as Clitocyboid.

When I think Clitocybe, I think a small to medium fleshy mushroom with a flat or depressed cap and gills that run down the stem. The cap will be fleshy and bald without much ornamentation besides possibly being a little translucent striate around the edge and there likely won't be any veil.

These are smallish mushrooms with thin insubstantial caps which almost no flesh and stems that look hollow and brittle. The caps are heavy pleated and have an indistinct dark "eye" in the center. I can't see the gills here but I suspect they don't run down the stems at all.

I would generally describe that as "mycenoid". A mycena is generally a small insubstantial mushroom with a heavily pleated cap which is usually bell shaped or conical. They have thin hollow stems and and gills which are usually attached to the stem but don't run down it much.

So you could start looking at mycena and similar mushrooms but if you took a spore print (or looked carefully at the gills to see if older ones have spore-colored gills or if there's a colored tint to the shadow between the gills) you might find that these have dark spores. You may also notice that the stems on these are a little wider than one would typically expect from a mycena. In that case you would want to look at the Psathyrella family, specifically the "inky caps" which have heavily pleated caps like mycena.

Most mushrooms people call "inky caps" never really open up like these, they spread their spores by dissolving into ink and letting the liquid carry spores to the surrounding area but there are a few kinds which don't in genera Coprinellus, and Parasaola/Tuloseus. Both of these genera tend to start out brownish/tan and fade to grey/white with often retaining some of the brown in the center of the cap (often called the "disc") which sounds a lot like the mushrooms in this photo.

TL;DR: definitely not Clitocybe, possibly Mycena (or something similar), most likely Psathyrellaceae of some sort. Perhaps Coprinellus Disseminatus or some Parasola species.

 

I thought this was a Hygrocybe at first and was very surprised that the spore print was brown. I love the little grooves on the stem.

 

I wouldn't even need jokers for mult so much with telescope.

 

Earthballs are a bit like puffballs except they have a thicker skin and tend to be inedible or poisonous (though some say it's that they just "spoil" so quickly that you almost never find them in a state of supposed edibility).

Earthballs often tricky to tell apart from each other without a microscope or seeing them at multiple stages in their lifecycle but the Leopard Earthball has a few good tells like the brown cracking scales on the surface and the rapid red staining when it's cut in half.

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If it's dark enough the tips glow faintly like a candle that's just been snuffed out.

You can see the glow in this blacklight photo I took (sorry if it's hard to see, I didn't turn off color correction on my phone).

The plant it's growing on is a dead piece of a Mountain Ash/Rowan shrub which seems to be bouncing back from whatever killed that branch.

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My reasoning for this being A. Adonis: To start with it's a pink mycenoid mushroom of which there are three documented species in the PNW.

It can't be Mycena Monticola because it wasn't found at a high enough elevation for that species (they only grow at over 2000 feet hence the name Monticola meaning "mountain dwelling").

The gills are not marginate (having a different color on the edges) which rules out the other pink species Mycena Rosella.

That leaves us with A. Adonis.

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Tiny Mycena (lemmynsfw.com)
 

Species is something like Subcana. Grey Mycena are hard to differentiate.

 

These have beautiful reddish brown pores on the bottom

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