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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Turkey and Greece exchanged each other’s ethnicities post WWI and War for Turkish independence, ethnic cleansing but not necessarily genocidal.

Yet for some reason there are 0 greeks in Turkey atm and 200k muslims in Greece, most of which selfidentify as ethnic turks. I wonder what happened, i guess we will never know. Oh wait, we do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul_pogrom

Also weirdly enough, sanctioned by international mediation because shit was weird back then

It's not weird, greeks and turks have murdered shitload of each others civilians.

After Greece's "Great Idea" plan(conquering Western Turkey) got crashed, Greece wanted to protect the surviving greeks in Turkey from further reprisals. So both sides decided to partially exchange populations while protecting the remaining minorities. Eventually(30 years later) Turkey decided they didnt want any greeks left in Turkey and violated the deal. Greece on the other hand just kept being shitty to ethnic turks living in Greece but at least they are mostly ok now.

Most greeks are aware of civilian turks getting murdered. I am not so sure turks are aware of the civilian greeks slaughtered. This "exchange" ended 3000+ year of continuous presence(with majority or almost majority percentages) of ethnic greeks in Anatolia(Western Turkey).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They are not genociding, they are just removing palestinians from areas, they are ethnic cleansing those areas. This is a pretty standard nation building tactic, except most, european, nations did it in the past, while Israel is doing it now. Azerbaijan did it too with their armenian enclave in Nagorno Karabakh. The armenians "voluntarily" left the region and now there are basically 0 armenians there.

Genocide focuses more on the destruction of people.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Vader could have revoked her diplomatic immunity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC_IaY3BmY

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

NATO's is not going to be part of Turkey's geopolitical schemes. Nukes are needed in order to be on an even footing with the other regional powers(which will also have nukes). Even if Saudi Arabia/Iran never intend to nuke Turkey, they will be at an advantage.

Hard power translates to soft power. And if your regional opponents have nukes and you dont have nukes, you will be at a significant soft power disadvantage.

Btw Turkey is building its first nuclear power plant, with help from Russia. Saudi Arabia also intends to build nuclear power plants soon. Thats the first step to creating a nuclear weapon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It's still real to me damnit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure there are NATO nukes sitting in Turkey already

Those are US controlled nukes. And the US doesnt have the best relation with Turkey atm. They are there now, gone tomorrow. Turkey cant rely on american nukes. If other regional powers have nukes, they need to have nukes. And if Turkey has nukes, then Greece needs to have nukes for selfprotection.

Turkey gets to wave their dicks around and make demands at the big boy table despite being a complete joke of a country.

They have the 2nd biggest military in NATO, after the US, an immensely important geographical location and they are a regional power(along with Iran and Saudi Arabia).

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (12 children)

And if Iran and Saudi Arabia get nukes, then Turkey will get nukes. And if Turkey gets nukes, then unless there is an EU army, Greece will want to get nukes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Every time i hear about an nfl player doing(or potentially doing) something fucked, i always wonder how much the sport is responsible for that and for fucking their brains.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Maybe Volvo? Do note that Polestar cars are made in China, but Volvo ones should be made in Europe or US. I dont know how good the conditions in the american Volvo factory are but in Sweden, Volvo is considered a good employer. Volvo/Polestar are owned by Geely, which is a chinese company but Volvo is pretty independent.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Italy elected Meloni(a woman who is a fascist) and France might elect Le Pen(a woman who is also fascist). The UK elected Thatcher and Turkey elected Ciller. Electing women is a meaningless metric. I bet all these countries are more sexist on average than the US. Trump is just a grifter, he has no ideology, other than narcissism.

Dont you understand that identity politics are being promoted as a distraction?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, it was both. The european brands avoided electric cars for a long time, while the chinese pushed hard for them. And because electric motors and car batteries were a new technology, this was a great opportunity for the chinese to pull ahead(everyone started from 0).

And the chinese also used their cooperations and acquisitions(Volvo and Lotus are owned by the chinese brand Geely), in order to improve the conventional car making part production(everything other than the electric engine and batteries). Tesla followed a similar arc. Their motors/batteries are great, the other parts started as bad but they are improving all the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

The Acropolis of Athens is extremely small. EPCOT is 40x larger(123 hectares vs 3 hectares).

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