this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2025
452 points (100.0% liked)

News

29568 readers
2439 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Donald Trump’s aggressive immigration policies, including heightened ICE raids, are disrupting the U.S. agricultural sector.

In California’s Central Valley, a key food-producing region, undocumented farm workers—over half the workforce—are staying home out of fear, leaving crops like citrus unharvested.

Bakersfield saw up to 75% of workers absent, sparking concerns of economic devastation and rising food prices.

ICE is also targeting sensitive areas like schools and churches after rolling back Obama-era protections.

Experts warn these policies could lead to widespread economic repercussions.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They've tried. They can't abuse American workers the way they do immigrant workers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So should we allow immigrants in illegally so they can be abused?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We should institute an agriculture work visa that includes a Spanish language lesson on their rights and go after the corporations that make them work in the fields while pesticide is being sprayed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

This is brilliant. Absolutely this should be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well they have to hire someone if they want to make money. If they throw us into a food crisis because we won't let them abuse people then we'll just nationalize the fields.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, now you’re just trying to turn me on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't be turned on by that. America can legally use prison labor as slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

So put a gun to their head and steal it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you're right. We should just abuse the ones already here by putting them in concentration camps- oh wait, that's the plan!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No the plan is to deport them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where do you think they will put them before they can be deported? You do realize they can't just stick them on a plane, right? Deportations have to be negotiated, and the country might not want to take them back. So they need to concentrate them in a camp or camps until such time as they can deport them. If they can ever be deported.

I'm pretty sure there's a term for a camp where people are concentrated. What do you think that term might be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Prison, where criminals are kept

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which prison has room for the 20 million people Trump is planning to deport? Please name it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol they're not gonna keep them all in one place at the same time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So you think that Trump's plan, despite his claim, is to put a few people who have overstayed their travel visa in prison at a time? With rapists and murderers? How do the people who get imprisoned get chosen?

And you do know that prisoners can legally, as per the 13th amendment, be used as slave labor, right?

And you're okay with all that, are you? Slaves getting raped for the crime of staying in a country too long?

And then there's the legal asylum seekers that Trump is also planning on deporting... guess their slavery and rapes are okay too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No that's a giant strawman. They should be deported. Do you think they should be able to come here without permission, to rape and murder while receiving welfare and free housing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Do you think they should be able to come here without permission, to rape and murder while receiving welfare and free housing?

Wow. You really have bought the full Trump narrative. I'm only surprised you're not talking about them eating pets too.

They don't even qualify for those things most of the time. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/welfare-benefits-for-non-citizens/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lol I strawmaned you, just like you did to me

most of the time.

It should be 0

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What you are doing is parroting Trump talking points. That's not "strawmanning," it's propaganda. And a lie.

I don't know what you think that term means, but you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I attacked an argument that you are not making. That is a strawman. That is also what you did. Not actually parroting them, I'm making a point about your argument.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What argument was I making that involved the use of government social services? Because I'm pretty sure I was talking about concentration camps, slavery and rape.

But do please quote me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I said NOT making. That's the whole point of calling it strawmaning

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, I see. Well that's not what I did. Because this is what you said:

So should we allow immigrants in illegally so they can be abused?

My response was that the ones here are going to be abused by the Trump administration. That's not a strawman. That's a direct response to what you said. Either you don't want immigrants abused or you do. Which is it?

Let me guess: putting someone who overstayed their visa in prison with a bunch of rapists and murderers until the country they came from agrees to take them back isn't abusive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh wow, you're incredibly gullible. Speaking of strawman...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like all the trolls came out today 🤡