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It feels crazy but yeah - PM of Israel is defending a person giving a Nazi salute. Said PM also involved in genocide.
Can't make this shit up
Again, to be clear you are declaring that Bibi Netanyahu, is a nazi?
(Sorry, this is about the funniest shit I've seen in awhile.)
Netanyahu is obviously not building gas chambers to gas the jews, but he is overseeing exceptional brutality being done to a group of people, most of whom are innocent. Nazism isn't only about jews, it's about all minorities or other ethnicities than the own one more broadly. Apart from the jews, the Nazis also killed a lot of polish people and anyone they deemed 'deviant'. Just because 'Nazis killed jews' is the only piece of information that stuck to the cultural zeitgeist doesn't mean it's the only thing you should focus on when determining if someone is a Nazi or not.
I wish I could upvote this harder. The Jewish people were subjected to horrific evils, but that wasn't just going to stop with them.
Society did a great job of teaching about the atrocities except to really hammer home that it was the "other" that was the target, not just that single group; they are the first, but wouldn't be the last if the Nazis were allowed to continue.
It didn't just stop with them.
Slavs, gypsies, LGBT people (I guess this one actually happened before Jews), some war prisoners, Communists, blacks, etc were targeted and holocausted too.
That's a good callout on me! I didn't mean to insinuate it was only that group one at a time, so thank you!
Nazis were also famously fascist, had no elections, had a strong security system to squash internal dissent and brooked no protest, none of which apply to Israel.
I get the appeal of labelling things you oppose as nazis but you can't just pick and choose what aspects fit and then apply the term nazi, it just makes us look dumb.
When someone gets banned from a site and complains that site is run by nazis, if we're using your standard of picking and choosing then that person is as correct as you are as the site is allowing no dissent and removing those who do. But in reality (I pray) we both look at that person and think less of their complaint because of the silliness of their comparison.
Same thing here. Use words that are accurate, genocidal would be a fair one if you believe it but nazi, it just makes you look fucking silly.
And yet when 10% of the population of Israel were out in the streets demanding his removal in 2023 the government did nothing to the protestors. That's decidedly not fascistic. Israel might be horrible but they aren't currently fascistic.
They shot and killed protesters in 2024. In any case, that isn't the deciding factor when considering if something is fascistic or not.
If the state isn't authoritarian they aren't fascist. Israel is a democracy.
You can have elections and still be fascist. Hitler was elected too.
When Hitler was elected his party was fascist but the state was not.
Jesus lord, this is a really really inaccurate take. There was only one election, it was the one in which Hitler took power. There were no more after.
One of the hallmarks of fascism is that it is anti-Democratic.
You can have elections and still be authoritan, if you also have a solid spoonful of political repression. (HINT: shooting protesters and closing news providers is repression)
I mean, it's literally an apartheid state. In what world do you live in?
True but Israel’s elections are free and fair elections. No one is currently claiming otherwise that has evidence to support that claim.
You can hate Israel all you want but they are not an authoritarian state.
They cannot be free and fair. The very fact that it's an apartheid state means segments of the population are not represented fairly.
Technically, palestinians can vote but they must be "citizens of israel" and getting the title is very hard, mainly because Israel makes it difficult. Gaza and most of the west bank cannot vote in national elections.
Any politician that isn't Jewish faces massive discrimination and there are laws to make sure they can't actually lead or gain power.
Take a second to learn what “free and fair elections” means because you are clearly confused as to what it means.
Most nations do not let non-citizens vote so that’s not surprising.
Regardless the only people calling Israel fascist are those people who have zero clue about fascism or the Israeli government.
There is a difference between non-citizens and a population you have kept in prison over decades.
During the apartheid in South Africa, the black population was systematically denied citizenship. Would you consider those fair elections?
But I guess any rhetoric is okay as long as it's in defense of the great genocidal warmongering state of Israel. I'm guessing you have a connection with the nation, but rabidly defending pure evil is always a bad look, even if you were raised to do so.
You seem to be REALLY ignorant about the whole "we don't like them so we don't consider them citizens" strategy that might be one of the oldest authoritarian strategies to leverage xenophobia in the play book...
No, you just seem to have a poor understanding of how governments work. You already are doubling down on your ignorance which is a bad sign.
I don't have any interest trying to correct people who want to cling to ignorance so let's stop here.
They shot and killed protesters in 2024 you wacko, not to mention that is not the deciding factor.
It's a sad truth and I'm not sure why it's funny
They are.