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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I don't get the downvotes. You're right, everything you "own" in steam is through a license. People just don't like to admit that we're willing to let that one slide for convenience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gamers are not always the most unfrozen pogos of the box.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Or as I like to say, two buns short of a hamburger

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I may be misremembering but don't some steam games have no drm? KSP1 and Ultrakill come to mind, are they still on a licence like games with drm?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

You are right - https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_DRM-Free_Games_on_Steam.

My main arguement though was that it's not like your steam library is yours without restrictions. You're agreeing to Steams terms and services and there are lots of ways they can prevent you from playing (most) games you "own".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the downvotes are because it's borderline misinformation:

whether a game comes with DRM or not has nothing to do with steam, and everything to do with the publisher.

plenty of games on steam are completely DRM free!

(...but the majority does have DRM, which, again, is on the publisher, not steam)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't bother reading the EULA for all commercial software then. You don't actually own anything you purchase.

Unless you have the code there is no freedom and it is all an illusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the point I and the person above were stating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was pretty sure Steam was getting dunked on because you don't actually own the games according to the contract. I was just pointing out this is also true of any commercial piece of software.

For example, you go to GameStop and buy a physical copy of your favorite game. When you install it the EULA makes it clear you don't actually own the product, just a license.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

True but if I own the .exe or physical disk, it's going to be a lot harder to stop me playing the game than if I'm accessing it through a platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That is a good point.