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He said he would do this!! How are people so fucking stupid??
They are white and conservative and have likely never known poverty, every interaction they've had with the law has been the most reasonable and generous interpretation of it. They assumed that's what Trump meant. That Trump wanted to deport the criminal element that everyone else was specifically protecting and refusing to acknowledge. They'd never seen firsthand the law applied cruelly against people they consider to be good people. They really still believed law enforcement was there to "do good" and protect "good" people, because that's most of how they've dealt with them personally.
I agree with the great majority of what you're saying except:
I grew up in poverty along with almost everyone else in my hometown. The whole area is super red. That's exactly the kind of thing they believe.
Not to say there aren't those kinds of people who haven't known poverty, it just doesn't seem to factor in.
I mean specifically this type of guy on how they are confused about how laws are enforced.
A lot of Trump supporters I think just don't really think things through critically and are mad about the economy and crime and homelessness and the drug epidemic and are swept up by the idea that someone is actually acknowledging those issues properly. Because the establishment has sure refused to actually tackle them for a long time. And Democrats can't help themselves but make themselves look even worse by constantly trying to introduce little nanny bullshit as well and they get a pretty deserved reputation as being a mixture of bought and paid for and nanny state trying to ban things and raise taxes. Republicans aren't all that popular either anymore, people want serious anti-establishment candidates and failing a real one they'll get excited about a fake one.
Ah, I understand what you're saying now. And yep. There's too much more to say on the matter for me to actually try to get into.
I also know a Trump supporting American Hispanic who have been mistaken as an immigrate by other immigrates. He has completely confidence that he'll never have issues with LEOs, but that may be the agent orange in his nervous system.
You would be fucking amazed the support Trump has among the poor.
So weird.
Knowing poverty doesn't prevent magatism, and can actually be a risk factor for it, depending on the attitude the person takes. The idea that the "other" is responsible for all your problems specifically targets people with problems such as poverty.
Have you met people?
They didn't believe he would. They thought he would hurt the people who they wanted to hurt, but leave them alone as a silent exception, like so many other things did.
Survivorship Bias - or something similar. If it hasn't happened to them, most people don't care until it directly affects them. Even if it affects their friends or family, sometimes that isn't enough.