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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Um... The gaming industry did much, MUCH better before it was filled with activists.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a "I liked Star Trek before it was woke" take.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh god, I "love" those people. Same as the guy who was pissed about how woke Rage Against the Machine had become. Like bruh... Seriously?!?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Um... The gaming industry did much, MUCH better before it was filled with ~~activists~~.

Capitalists. The word you're looking for is capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There’s only one maybe two good video games not made by capitalists (Tetris and Disco Elysium).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You REALLY need to look up what happened with disco Elysium then come back and use it as an example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s why it is “one or two”. The guys that made DE weren’t capitalists. The guys that published and sold DE were capitalists.

Regardless it’s an incredibly silly claim to suggest capitalism ruined video games when so few examples of good non-capitalist games exist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Sorry I misunderstood your stance; yes you're absolutely right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wrong. Gaming industry was doing fantastic before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism broke gaming twice already. Once in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Ah yeah! Games have been free since the 80s, I completely forgot!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Such a moronic take based on absolutely nothing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Great counter argument, lmaooo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's the only response required when you don't even have any evidence, empirical or otherwise, to back up your moroinc claim.

Go away pigeon, you can't play chess.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By what metric? Business is booming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah all those layoffs, mass studio closures, and over 15k game jobs lost(just in 24) sure do mean business is going great!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea yea, it's all sweetbaby and DEI fault and not corporations being greedy hellholes that only worry about quarterly profits since forever. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sbi needs to go back to the cave they crawled out of.

Since when were corporations NOT greedy? It's hilarious you think that it's only now that they got greedy, lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Please point out where I implied that corporations got greedy "only now". Hint: i said "since forever", the implication is that they were always shit. Then again, can't expect much from you.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (11 children)

All of those are due to the drastic increase in jobs during covid. This is happening in many, many tech related careers. It is not because of inclusivity. Get your head out of your ass.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

before it was filled with activists.

and exactly when was this? lol

when did all the activists take over. Pong?

Colecovision?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of record breaking games that have released while the industry has been “filled with activists.” Many of them are even about politics, like Helldivers 2.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there are good studios, when did I say there weren't?

Stellar blade did amazingly. Good game, and no woke bs activists = profits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stellar Blade had a stripper as a player character, and that itself created a meta dialogue about how every other video game doesn't

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you even played the game? No, because you're still crying that your activist games didn't sell well.

Play stellar blade and realize that it's a fantastic game, combat wise and design wise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'd love to. If it was released on PC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, having a poc or queer character in your shitty video games is the biggest example activism since the Civil Rights Movement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It’s more about the messaging. The mere presence of a POC or trans character isn’t bothersome to most people. But when that character comes with dialogue lines that make the political messaging obvious, then they’re no longer a character that happens to be non-White or trans; they’re a political prop inserted into a game to send a political message, and that can be quite irksome when all you’re trying to do is play a fantasy RPG and escape from the world for a bit, even if you actually agree with the message.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The mere presence of a POC or trans character isn’t bothersome to most people.

but some people LOSE THEIR ABSOLUTE SHIT over it lol.

fuck em, let them die angry.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A bad written character is a bad written character, their dialogue could be about candies and is still a bad written character. This argument is bullshit, bad case of confirmatory bias.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No, it’s not about the writing. It’s when’s a game feels like it’s preaching at you. Not the same problem at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. Don't lecture us about being trans or etc.

We honestly don't care. (Yes, a small percentage of people are actually bigots and hate gays/trans for being who they are). The rest of us just don't want it shoved down our throats.

It's like making a game and having the main character proclaiming: "look how straight I am! Wow I sure do love women! I'm so straight and anyone who isn't should do pushups".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The rest of us just don’t want it shoved down our throats.

and when you put storytelling of any kind that way, it tells me who you really are.

no one is shoving anything down your throat sweetie, you paid your money for a game before checking it out. that's your mistake, not the devs.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And yet, from the downvoting here and everywhere else this comes up, it’s clear: some people can’t take nuanced opinions on topics like this. If you object in any capacity, you’re the worst possible objector.

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