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cross-posted from: https://ponder.cat/post/1517787

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Okay, okay, yeah is it bad? Yeah it's bad but listen up libs - Remember when Harris was being reported as focusing on the middle class during her four month campaign? Huh? Yeah. That's why this is happening. And we were right to not fight against this fascist horror with the one thing that would have mattered, our vote. She should have paid more attention to people who have it bad.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Any post that starts with "listen up libs" immediately makes me ignore the rest of its contents. Not interested in your MAGA and/or tankie bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Since Herr Trumpf got elected for his second term, the line between MAGA and Tankie has been getting preeeeeetty thin. Seen a lot of "masks off" comments from the folk at .ml....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

obviously you are a old and don't understand that liberals are the absolute worst thing in the world next to conservatives. Us kids are down with the leftism now and any Democratic person is a horrible traitor to society which is why we let trump win. You need to read the manga versions of Das Kapital to really get it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Bro. Do you not know what the words "not interested" mean? I wasn't going to read your first wall of text, and I'm surely not going to read that second one. I can't handle the ignorance from bigots and bootlickers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Read it so you don't have to: It's a troll.

Block and move on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I use voyager, so it's more fun to tag em and watch their antics. Always a good laugh when there's multiple Red tags frothing at eachother.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Skimming is standard. I appreciate the effort though!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You need to read the manga versions of Das Kapital to really get it.

And we need to read this to really get you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gulag_Archipelago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The middle class also has it bad. A worker is anyone who isnt an owner

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

One would think. And yet she was pilloried for focusing on the economics of the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Electoralism is bullshit to begin with. Trump shouldn't have been able to do what he's doing at all. An actual developed society shouldn't be susceptible to fascist takeover, because fascists should be unacceptable in government. And the president shouldn't be able to do anything they want with nothing but good faith holding them back. The American government fundamentally failed a long time ago. If Harris had won it wouldn't have been Trump, but she was far from a progressive and would not have changed the government in an attempt to preserve it against future fascist uprising.

Not to mention her commitment to Israel. Not to mention she was part of the Biden administration, and had a direct involvement in the American government's support for the Palestinian genocide.

Yes, it would've been better in many ways if she had won. But the choice never should've been between a neoliberal conservative and a fascist. America was broken under Biden, too. Not the way it is, nor the way it will be as Trump's kingdom rises. But it's far more nuanced than just "if she had won everything would be swell". And it's weird to point out non-voters as the problem, instead of like. The past 5 decades of American politics. The many many many people who did nothing to prevent this from happening over 50 years. The democratic party itself failed to meaningfully respond to his first presidency.

Yes if the people who had stayed home had instead voted, and voted for Harris specifically, she would be president and the outcome would be better for everyone. Undoubtedly. Like Weimar Germany though the government was already fundamentally broken and susceptible to the rise of fascism. To simply and immediately put blame on the voters ignores the actual reasons that situation even came about to begin with.