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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After seeing this sentiment expressed for the 50th time on similar threads, I’m more convinced than ever that: 1.) Many Democrats prefer beating up their left flank to actually opposing Republican ideology, 2.) Many Democrats are somehow pleased that the genocide is proceeding in this fashion because they both get to genocide Palestinians and beat up on their left flank. If Kamala had won, they would have only been able to enjoy half of these pastimes.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nah. We're all just pissed that these shortsighted idiots decided to try and make a point about biden/harris and trump/vance being the same for Gaza/Palestine (which, clearly, factually, in every possible conceivable way, they are not), and in so doing, ended the longest running democracy in human history, to say nothing of making our lives a fucking hell for the next however many years until this shitshow is over or the country implodes.

It was idiotic, we told them it was idiotic, they argued against it, and they chose to let trump win and now we're all stuck with the fucking bill of their stupidity. All of us.

So yeah, I'm fucking pissed at them, and the trump supporters. At least with the maga asshats you know you're getting idiots marching on parade. We were counting on the dems not being a bunch of fuckwits.

But here we are, sitting in a shit timeline, eating a shit sandwich together.

A sandwich we all said we'd have to fucking eat if this felon rapist piece of shit clown got elected again.

It's just so fucking exhausting. God fucking damn it, and people like you trying to blame those of us that went out and voted and tried to keep democracy going for another round. We're not the bad guys here, and we absolutely get to fucking bag on all you dipshits that chose to let this happen by not exercising your right, and fucking DUTY, to vote.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Why not be mad at Dems for not doing a better job and having better candidates?

That’s like Burger King serving poop burgers and you’re pissed that people stopped eating shit burgers cuz now Burger King is closed and they built a Chick Fil A in it’s place.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No party loyalist will ever admit the party is in any way culpable for its own losses.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How about admitting that the party is culpable and the people who said not to vote for them or people who didn't vote at all are also culpable, because the world isn't black and white and there's plenty of blame to go around?

No?

Black and white world?

Cool.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Well, that precludes being a loyalist, doesn’t it? So clearly not the group to which I was referring. No need to be reductive as I’m not claiming a binary worldview.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That may be the dumbest analogy I've ever seen.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It’s a good analogy and I stand by it

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real failure of the Democrats wasn't even on Gaza. The day Biden won the election, I was saying that it didn't matter, and that Trump or a similar Republican would be back in power in 2024. Why? Because it was abundantly obvious, even then, well before Gaza, that he wasn't going to do the things that needed to be done to keep Trump out of power.

The 2020 election was the anomaly. DNC milquetoast centrism is a dead philosophy and has been politically nonviable since 2012 at the latest. Biden only won by a fluke in 2020 because Trump managed to so massively screw up the covid response. If covid hadn't happened, or if Trump hadn't actively screwed it up so much, he would have won in 2020.

Biden represents a philosophy that voters have rejected again and again. Yet the Democrats will never fucking learn.

Even if by some miracle Kamala had won, all that would have changed was that Trump or another fascist would have won in 2028, because again, she wasn't going to do anything substantial.

People ultimately didn't even stay home just because of Gaza. They stayed home because they were tired of voting for a failed party again and again, election after election, because "democracy was on the line."

Here's a hard fucking truth about democracy. For most people, democracy hasn't been worth jack shit. Remember, the bottom 90% of the country doesn't actually live in a democracy and hasn't for decades. US democracy died a long time ago. People just got tired of propping up the facade and decided to finally let the rotten edifice collapse.

Want someone to blame for the current Trump term? Blame Biden for appointing Merrick fucking Garland. And it's clear that even now, the Democratic leadership hasn't learned a damn thing. The Democratic Party needs to be burned to ashes. It is irredeemable.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 month ago

And Garland dragging his feet on prosecuting trump, and Democrats who voted to confirm horrible picks for every position, especially the courts. I didn't see Obama closing gitmo either.