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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We let children have medical care

Gender affirming care is medical care

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

But where do you draw the line of gender affirming care?

Is giving a teenage boy a bigger dick gender affirming care, and therefore essential medical care? What about a girl who's flat chested wanting bigger boobs? I know it's weird to ask and I do feel kinda gross but yeah. Is that too far? What about an athlete who wants to take steroids cause it would help them achieve their ideal body?

I'm genuinely not trying to be rude. I just, if you give the life altering drugs to one group of kids, where do you draw the line? What about kids who clearly need to hit a joint and chill but it's illegal cause they're underage? I don't think it's fair to give one group more privileges regardless of how they feel.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is giving a teenage boy a bigger dick gender affirming care, and therefore essential medical care? What about a girl who's flat chested wanting bigger boobs? I know it's weird to ask and I do feel kinda gross but yeah. Is that too far? What about an athlete who wants to take steroids cause it would help them achieve their ideal body?

If my grandma had wheels?

None of these are mostly reversible treatments with negligible long term impacts that are common with trans minors.

None of thee are also connected to issues that cause intense mental health issues, including suicidal ideation AND can be treated by your proposed suggestions.

You're comparing completely incomparable situations that look similar at face value without thinking about them for just a minute.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cis people don't kill themselves over body issues? Only trans people can be fucked up mentally?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Posting like this just makes you seem dishonest.

If you really wanna talk about this drop me a discord handle in dms, I don't feel like typing out long form forum messages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of thee are also connected to issues that cause intense mental health issues, including suicidal ideation AND can be treated by your proposed suggestions.

This isn't leading to CIS people not having intense mental problems that can potentially be changed through body modifications? That only people who are trans want to kill themselves because of the body they were born with?

Everyone has problems mentally. And I'm truly sorry trans people haven't been helped in the past. But I honestly think and body modifications, be it through surgery or hormones or anything else, should be held off until we as a society agree children are adults. Else we might as well allow kids to smoke, drink, take steroids, or do anything that will let them have the "ideal" body.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

The problems that lead to similar outcomes as gender dysphoria, such as body dysmorphic disorder are different and have different treatments.

In the case of trans people with gender dysphoria, it is social and medical transition.

You need to understand that these are different situations that require different approaches, this is why they're approached differently by doctors.

Please I beg you to try to read up and understand the topics you talk about. I don't want to sound hostile, I'm just really tired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm not a doctor, so I don't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Drawing the line is easy: Can the procedure be delayed without any life long consequences? If yes, you can wait until you're an adult.

You want bigger boobs? That's fine, but in the end, it doesn't make a difference whether you do it as a 14 years or as an adult. You can wait 4 more years.

You want steroids to achieve a more muscular body? That's your choice, but it won't harm you to wait another few years, you will still have enough time to achieve and enjoy your ideal body when you are an adult.

You don't want to undergo male puperty? Okay, time to act now, because you will suffer irreversable consequences if we do nothing.