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PSN Is Still Down After 14 Hours And No One Knows Why (www.forbes.com)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Cloud saves that are free on PC, and they don't block your access to transfer saves without it like consoles do. Playing online on PC is free, and we know exactly how to make it free on consoles, but they're not interested in doing so. No one can guarantee 100% uptime, which is why it's a bad deal to make the subscription for that stuff mandatory instead of allowing things like direct IP connections.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You apparently can transfer saves on PS4/5 offline. For PS4 they can be copied to a USB drive, but more to your point here, the only way to copy PS5 saves around (besides PS+) are to do console backup and restore processes and then during that process say you want to take save games wholesale (and then restore them wholesale). That’s definitely greedy bullshit.

I don’t know what more to say, consoles are walled gardens that consumers pay to be in. Within those walled gardens, the company dictates the rules. There’s plenty of good arguments for using a more open platform like PC. Not the least of which is that PlayStation has had an abysmal console cycle for trying to prove their console is worth purchasing - what with it having basically no exclusives that won’t eventually come to PC, first-party or otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

consoles are walled gardens that consumers pay to be in

Less and less as time goes on, is my point, for the reasons we've discussed. Maybe any one or two of those reasons aren't doing it on their own, but in the aggregate, it appears consumers are slowly deciding not to put up with the downsides anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It also helps that consoles are becoming more and more PC-esque and expensive. Consoles were a good alternative because they were cheaper, had exclusive titles, and had the ability to couch game, and usually were just "pop disc in and play". They were also pretty stand-alone devices. My biggest issue with PC gaming prior to really this generation was I cannot stand M+KB, I like sitting back in a chair with a controller. But now, peripherals are more able to operate on multiple platforms, games do cross-platform releases, cross play is more prolific (and cross-saves as of late), and it's easier to switch now and not "lose" your friends. Plus, the cost of consoles anymore are much closer to equivalent PCs now.

Console positives are dwindling, or at least becoming neutral to PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mouse and keyboard hasn't been so much a requirement for the better part of 20 years on PC, but the rest tracks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, but I didn't want the headache of multiple peripherals, and when you're 15, it's hard to convince a parent to spring for more expensive options out of convenience lol. There were options, but even still, some games didn't come with native controller support (I built my 1st PC in college in...2013? for ESO, and the controller support was through a mod, and it barely worked at the best of times).

Theyve just gotten so similar in their function, it's increasingly hard to justify a console anymore. Microsoft basically forgoing exclusives now only strengthens it