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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem is, where do we start? We've been, er, "taking the L" for so long, when are we going to start giving the L?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Drop the Democrats and support the Green Party.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No. Fuck the Green Party. They've disappeared immediately after the election like they always do, and we will not hear about them again for another four years.

They are not a real party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can someone explain why all this hatred for the green party? I don't know anything about them but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for that is active silencing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They exist merely to help an incumbent conservative president win by siphoning votes away from disgruntled progressives. They come out of the dark at election time, then disappear after the election, like demented cicadas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hahahah ok I understand how that is what practically happens, but where do they stand politically? What I mean is, this time we saw Harris support fracking and guns, having a lackluster response to Israeli aggression - to say the least - buddying up with Liz Cheney etc etc. Do people who are disappointed by this right turn have any reason to turn to the greens? If not, is there anyone else?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are a fake party that comes out every four years (after primary season, when they could have become an actual viable candidate in our broken two-party system), to be a spoiler candidate that siphons votes from the Democratic party.

Every time.

Then they disappear for four years, and re-appear again at the same time during the next presidential election cycle and do it all again. They are not a serious party. If they were, they would have actual candidates running at state and local levels. They would participate in the primary process and/or campaign to switch away from First Past the Post system.

But they do none of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

they don't disappear. the media doesn't cover them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We haven't disappeared. The media only covers us when we're running presidential candidates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh cool, then I'm sure you guys will start campaigning right away with some new, serious, progressive faces to go against democrats in primary elections?

No? You'll be gone until 2028?

Prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

https://www.gp.org/help_elect_a_green_to_the_milwaukee_common_council Here's an example of them trying to get someone elected to local office.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you mean midterms? Primaries are done within parties.

Again, we are running candidates, but you likely haven't heard about them because, like I said, we only get coverage during presidential elections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well until we get rid of first past the post, they have zero chance as a third party. Their only real chance would be to primary with the major party that they most align with.

Also, just because you can find one or two examples of green party candidates, does not mean that they are a real party. There is more to a political party than just allowing a person to use your party's name while campaigning.

We need a real, grassroots, progressive party. The Green Party could clean up their act and become a serious party, and they'd still be shit because the name carries so much baggage. There are a whole lot of people who have been burned and will never vote Green Party again for the rest of their lives. Everyone would be better off with a new party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool. Let me know when this new party of yours is bigger than the Greens, and I'll join it. I'm only a Green because they're the best party out there. If something better comes along, I'm there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The green party is nonexistent, any party is bigger than the green party

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

PSL is the only actual revolutionary party in America that I know of right now. The green party is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Go piss in the wind! The US Green Party is not the same as the European versions, with exception to the turd and loser, Joschka Fischer.