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Trump envoy can’t name a single concession Russia will make in peace deal
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Well Palestinians were involved with negotiating the Oslo accords, and that gave rise to Hamas anyway. Palestine is a fascist society and as you say there isn't much point in having an agreement with fascists unless there's some kind of military force to ensure they follow it. At this point Palestine is just a proxy in Iran's "Axis of Resistance" and it doesn't seem like Iranians much care how many Arabs die so long as it hurts their enemies. It makes sense for Arab countries to work together with Israel against their common adversary of Iran. Trying to keep normalized relations between Iran's adversaries as some kind of motivator in a vain hope that Iran's proxies will suddenly make a peace agreement separate from the country that's funding them is a little naive.
With Ukraine it's the opposite way. It's Russia that's the fascist society and yeah, there needs to be military guarantees that they won't do as Hamas does and just build up their forces and strike when it suits them while ignoring any agreement made.
The point I was making is that you can't make lasting peace through flimsy one-sided negotiations, but the trump brand of peacemaking is about quick "results" with single-presidential-term durability that solves very little on the long run, just pushes the problems to the next presidential term (which may be his own this time...).
Your comparison of Hamas and Russia doesn't only lack nuance but blatantly ignores crucial geopolitical differences in worldwide influence, military might, and general motivations, which are all totally beside the point of the present discussion.
Uhh... you brought up how it's similar to the Abraham accords without any kind of nuance. I added a small amount of additional detail. But instead of accepting your initial comparison lacked nuance, you're trying to play the uno reverse card which is an immature (and dishonest) style of discussion.
If someone ignores all the cues about the discussion's context (trumpian peace) let it be implied (thread's topic; my first post), or explicit ("the point I was making" and beside the point of the present discussion), they shouldn't complain about the discussion's style either.
Oh, man, the white colonialist invader's propaganda never ceases to be an entertaining parroting of the "it's the natives whose land we stole and whose children we murdered who are violent barbarians and the real baddies" same line as used way back in the 19th century against Indian tribes in America and the natives of the territories occupied by the British Empire.
"They're the real Fascists for not laying down and taking it whilst we as a self proclaimed 'people chosen by ' rape them!!!"
Trully, Zionists have Western Values - specifically, the Western Values from two centuries ago.