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I've seen a LOT of russian/trump, "it's a mystery if they're in bed together" type posts for the past few days. It made me pull out the bookmarks from the first term. Here is some ammo if anyone needs it (other stuff is mixed in). Remember, leave the link and depart. If you're explaining, you're losing.
"Haven't they paid enough with the lives of their dear boys?"
I remain unimpressed by CNN reporters because he has not asked the most important question: What will guarantee Russia's adherence to any kind of peace deal?
It's boring to repost it the Nth time but the 1994 Budapest Memorandum was quite clear about these matters:
Yet, putin kicked nearly every single point in the memorandum the moment he felt ready. Why would the same leader act differently in the future?
It's eerily similar in my view to the Abraham accords. Trump negotiated bypassing Palestinians and then we got Oct 7 and the war that spiraled from it. These "deals" are as flimsy as a CyberTruck, but it's also very trumpy. He gets to act like a peacemaker and then his successor will deal with the consequent shit. Same thing happened in Afghanistan.
*edit: also, if someone wants to be "fair" (i'd rather say naive) one can consider the official Russian narrative, but again that narrative explicitly goes against the Budapest Memorandum, meaning, they are very open about not respecting treaties they sign.
CNN was bought by a right wing shitbag. They are FOX News in a trench coat
Well Palestinians were involved with negotiating the Oslo accords, and that gave rise to Hamas anyway. Palestine is a fascist society and as you say there isn't much point in having an agreement with fascists unless there's some kind of military force to ensure they follow it. At this point Palestine is just a proxy in Iran's "Axis of Resistance" and it doesn't seem like Iranians much care how many Arabs die so long as it hurts their enemies. It makes sense for Arab countries to work together with Israel against their common adversary of Iran. Trying to keep normalized relations between Iran's adversaries as some kind of motivator in a vain hope that Iran's proxies will suddenly make a peace agreement separate from the country that's funding them is a little naive.
With Ukraine it's the opposite way. It's Russia that's the fascist society and yeah, there needs to be military guarantees that they won't do as Hamas does and just build up their forces and strike when it suits them while ignoring any agreement made.
The point I was making is that you can't make lasting peace through flimsy one-sided negotiations, but the trump brand of peacemaking is about quick "results" with single-presidential-term durability that solves very little on the long run, just pushes the problems to the next presidential term (which may be his own this time...).
Your comparison of Hamas and Russia doesn't only lack nuance but blatantly ignores crucial geopolitical differences in worldwide influence, military might, and general motivations, which are all totally beside the point of the present discussion.
Meanwhile Zelensky is saying he'll give up the presidency in exchange for NATO membership.
Is that a concession? I don't think he actually wants to be president anymore.
Don't get me wrong, it's the correct "deal" to make - it's the most overt declaration he can make to those who claim he wants to be dictator for life - I just think it's probably a win/win for him.
Win win win to be honest. It's just further proof he doesn't want to be the dictator he's accused of being.
And further proof he's the much better diplomat/politician than those who exclude him.
Is that a concession?
It's absolutely a concession, and a very big one too. It's a concession to the Trump allegations that Zelenskyy is a dictator. And this bullshit argument was given as one of the reasons he wasn't invited to the talks in Saudi Arabia.
I don’t think he actually wants to be president anymore.
Doesn't change the fact that it's a very big concession.
It might be the correct deal, but it worries me. I can only imagine the people saying he wants to be a dictator are those that want a Putin style election to install another puppet. I know they have to have elections at some point - it's just a worry!
I highly doubt any Russian aligned party or candidate would win any office. Doubtful they'd survive the election in a place like Mariupol or Sebastopol.
Wonder how we can protect exit polling - that’s how we know Maduro stole so big.
Trump will agree as long as he quits first then pull the rug from under Ukraine.
Incredible that Trump remains so mad that Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize that he’s willing to literally just order an ally to give up so he can claim he made the peace and demand his prize. He really was just entirely broken by a black man being president.
This has nothing to do with obama or peace prizes.
Trump is an agent of putin's will and he's carrying out russia's foreign policy by demanding the full surrender of ukraine.
This has nothing to do with obama or peace prizes.
Oh, you bet it does. Don't be silly.
Both things can be true simultaneously. 🤷♂️
Along with some other as yet unnamed reasons/causes.
There are things trump does that are erratic, but if you look at his first term and now he always was very consistent when it came to Russia and putin.
The entire right wing of the country absolutely went off the deep end when a black man was elected president. Make no doubt about it, the Republican party was always awful and on the way to getting worse, but Obama's election was the the catalyst that drove mainstream conservatives into conspiracy theories and ultranationalistic race identity politics.
Or it really was the Mayan calendar ending. Or not enough dicks out for Harambe.
The blind leading the lame
Donald Trump’s Middle East envoy, who met with Russian President Vladimir Putin last week, said a deal over Ukraine’s raw earth minerals could be signed this week.
The deal will be signed with Russia. Trump will want carve up Ukraine between the US and Russia.
Remember how the Nazis and the Soviet Union made a treat before WWII dividing Poland between them?
Their concession is sending someone to listen to the Trump guy.
They are none.
Trump just looks so weak here. So much for being a strongman. I guess he just likes being manhandled?
Weird way to spell capitulation.
Our cold war enemy has the president of the United States in his pocket.
What are they talking about?!? Russia is obviously conceding half of Ukraine for the next 3 to 5 years. It is absolutely gracious of them to allow the people in Ukraine to borrow that territory until Russia feels like actually ruling it again!
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Bend over, blyat.
I don't want to give Twitter any of my traffic, so I found it here: https://youtu.be/Tbr_4tbvImc?si=B6Uv8MleI1njZ2T8