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Violence is never the answer.
Tell that to those rescued from the Nazi death camps, and the enslaved people freed from bondage by the Civil War.
Remember it used to be the rule that the conversation was over once someone mentioned Nazis?
No? Why wouldn't we be allowed to talk about the filthy nazis who are destroying the United States as we speak?
I was referring to Godwin's law not the government that the majority of American voters elected.
Didn't Hitler also have the "peoples mandate" as the fucking fascist trash looooove to keep repeating?
Just baaaarely over half the voting public. If one were to trust that Elon and the other traitors didn't fuck with the votes.
Seeing how they're acting now, I don't believe for a second that 2024 was legitimate.
No, Hitler did NOT have a people’s mandate. He had about 30% or less. Which interestingly seems to be the 30% of the population who are inherently authoritarian according to Altemeyer’s “The Authoritarians” book.
I’ve heard the ‘they stole the vote’ line from the republicans too ever since Biden won.
They didn’t fuck with the vote, eighty million people decided they didn’t care if Trump won so they sat on their asses on Election Day.
I’m not the one you should be mad at.
They certainly did fuck with the voters, though - there was an absurd amount of well documented disenfranchisement leading up to this election. You can believe what you want to believe, but I choose to believe that if everyone who in previous elections had been eligible to vote had been allowed to this time, too, the result would have been different.
You’re not wrong there but the leftists fucked with the voters just as hard.
Can you provide sources for what you're referring to?
Did you not see anything where the ‘progressives’ were calling Biden genocide Joe and saying Harris was the exact same?
Yeah, absolutely, but that's propaganda, not voter suppression. I wasn't even mentioning the propaganda, of which there was a vast amount of both for Trump and against Harris.
That propaganda had the effect of suppressing voting.
There's a difference between propaganda convincing people not to vote vs. voter suppression legally preventing them from doing so. Like it or not, I think propaganda is an inescapable reality of the world we live in, and I don't see any way to stop it without also suppressing speech. Truth in reporting laws would certainly help, but a huge amount of it is disseminated via social media by users.
Laws removing the ability to vote from a population that disproportionately skews politically in one direction or who are disproportionately of specific ethnicities is far more insidious and should be preventable.
I have no proof or sources to back me up but I feel voter suppressing propaganda is as big of a problem but nevertheless eighty million eligible votes didn't exercise their rights to do so and that's almost inexcusable.
I agree with you that it's a huge problem; I'm just not sure we have a simple / viable solution. Elon Musk can post something on Twitter that's verifiably, indisputably wrong, and you can have 100,000 people posting hard evidence proving that it's wrong, but Elon's reach is greater than all 100k of them combined. It's essentially impossible to counter social media propaganda as a result, and that was the case even before he owned the platform it's being disseminated on.
If you don't want people coming up with the easiest counterexample, don't say "never".
I agree violence should never be the answer but when the people in charge control everything from justice to every part of gouvernement little choice remain
How many guns do you have where you think you can take on ‘every part of the government?’.
Violence isn’t the answer but voting the next chance you have is.
More people should have voted in 2024 and this wouldn’t be a problem.
You don't take on every part of the government dumbass. Insurgencies aren't like that.
This is the comment I was replying to.
What "little choice remains" means is that your choices are defending your rights or capitulating.
It sure got rid of the nazis last time.
World War II had fifty to eighty-five million fatalities with just over four million dead Nazis.
Clearly we should have just caved to hitler, since violence is never the answer.
Caving to the right is always the centrist answer.
If world war two got rid of all the Nazis why are we still battling them?
Because they still have appeasers to take advantage of. You don't want to do anything to oppose them now, either.
Violence isn't the only way to oppose something that's the mistake you're making with your argument.
It's the only effective way against some things.
Centrists see fascism and either want to toady up and appease it, or want to collaborate.