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Framework just announced their Desktop computer: an AI powerhorse?

Recently I've seen a couple of people online trying to use Mac Studio (or clusters of Mac Studio) to run big AI models since their GPU can directly access the RAM. To me it seemed an interesting idea, but the price of a Mac studio make it just a fun experiment rather than a viable option I would ever try.

Now, Framework just announced their Desktop compurer with the Ryzen Max+ 395 and up to 128GB of shared RAM (of which up to 110GB can be used by the iGPU on Linux), and it can be bought for something slightly below €3k which is far less than the over €4k of the Mac Studio for apparently similar specs (and a better OS for AI tasks)

What do you think about it?

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Memory bandwidth is 256GB/sec, much less than M4 Max (526GB/s) or M2 Ultra (800GB/s). Expect performance to reflect that.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's comparable to the M4 Pro in memory bandwidth but has way more RAM for the price.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Good point. You can't even get an M* Pro with 128GB. Only the Max and Ultra lines go that high, and then you'll end up spending at least twice as much.